EA hints PSP2 powerful as PS3/ Pachter predicts it'll be dead

[SPH73]

But we've probably all played handheld games that look better than Dreamcast games and even PS2, Gamecube, etc games. Sure, the handheld isn't as powerful in specs, but it looks better when it's on your screen.

Bullshit.

While I'll be the first to step up and defend the PSP, there's no way Liberty City Stories looks as good as GTA III. PSP uses a lot of tricks and short cuts to get things done. And if you have the right kind of eyes, they are easy to see.

PSP2 will probably fall just below 360/PS3, just like PSP is just below PS2.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

But we've probably all played handheld games that look better than Dreamcast games and even PS2, Gamecube, etc games. Sure, the handheld isn't as powerful in specs, but it looks better when it's on your screen.

Bullshit.

While I'll be the first to step up and defend the PSP, there's no way Liberty City Stories looks as good as GTA III. PSP uses a lot of tricks and short cuts to get things done. And if you have the right kind of eyes, they are easy to see.

PSP2 will probably fall just below 360/PS3, just like PSP is just below PS2.

Although games like Peace Walker and Ghost of Sparta look better than a lot of PS2 games. I'd say Peace Walker looks better than MGS2 or 3.

 

[Midna]

I'd disagree heartily. Peach Walker is very jagged. It does look half decent when it's on the PSP screen its self, but it's still not better than MGS2, certainly not MGS3.

 

[Stevetry]

PSP2 is doom from the start like the psp was this are just new to try to trick us

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'd disagree heartily. Peach Walker is very jagged. It does look half decent when it's on the PSP screen its self, but it's still not better than MGS2, certainly not MGS3.

Well it's kinda, you know, supposed to be played on a PSP screen. Saying it looks worse off the screen is rather useless considering you'll be playing it on the PSP. It may have some jagged features but all PSP games do, and in the end it has much better details from my looks upon it.

QUOTE(Stevetry @ Dec 7 2010, 02:26 AM) PSP2 is doom from the start like the psp was this are just new to try to trick us

Yes, because doomed systems sell 60+ million units.

Nice English.

 

[nutella]

I don't mind if it's powerful, just as long as it offers me something new. That and some nice pick up and play games, which i feel was lacking on the PSP.

 

[Midna]

That bit was an aside, that screenshots make it look horrid. But it's still not on PS2 level even in its native resolution.

 

[SPH73]

I'd disagree heartily. Peach Walker is very jagged. It does look half decent when it's on the PSP screen its self, but it's still not better than MGS2, certainly not MGS3.

Every honest gamer knows you are correct.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

PSP2 is doom from the start like the psp was this are just new to try to trick us

You know I seriously have to question the integrity of gamers and developers these days. Saying the PSP doomed, or failed is simply bullshit.

Compare it to the DS, sure, it couldn't compete with it. But if we're going to say a system that sold 60 million consoles failed, then by all means, PS3 and 360 bombed this generation too didn't they?

60 million is a STRONG, very STRONG sales figure. If not, then PS3 sucked this generation, so did the 360 because Wii outsold them. Or hell, Wii failed too because it couldn't compete with the DS.



On topic: PSP2 isn't as powerful as the PS3. There's simply no way. It's impossible at this time.

QUOTEBut we've probably all played handheld games that look better than Dreamcast games and even PS2, Gamecube

Dreamcast... maybe, but doubt it. Because the DS was in that area of between SNES and N64. It never surpassed the N64. Handhelds don't look better than PS2 that's for sure, and sure as hell not better than GameCube because GameCube was a stronger console than the PS2.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I'd disagree heartily. Peach Walker is very jagged. It does look half decent when it's on the PSP screen its self, but it's still not better than MGS2, certainly not MGS3.

Every honest gamer knows you are correct.

I'm an honest gamer but I disagree. I guess we all have different opinions on looks then.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Trying saying that when your 3DS drops dead on battery because you like playing 3D games.

Because 3D requires so much extra power, when the same number of pixels are being drawn, right? There is no evidence to suggest that it would drain the battery further on the 3DS in 3D mode anymore than it would in 2D mode. Yes, more power to operate with an 800x240 screen than a 400x240, I won't argue that, but the 3DS will always run under 800x240, as 2D mode is just repeating the same column of pixels every other column. For all we know, the 2D mode is just the 3D mode with the two cameras being positioned and oriented the exact same way to make it look like it's only 400x240.

One reason why the PSP had poor battery life was because of the UMD drive taking up a lot of the juice. Later PSP titles managed to optimize the need to use the drive so it would use less power overall, but it was still a power hog. The DS (and 3DS) use solid state memory, requiring no mechanical parts.

 

[Gh0sti]

nintendo will win again as usual

 

[DiscostewSM]

It never surpassed the N64

I disagree. The DS didn't surpass the N64 in "some" areas, but it did in others, such as poly tri count per second (N64's 100K/sec vs DS's 120K/sec), texture and render modes (like cel-shading), shadow volumes, etc.

 

[Law]

and unlike the N64 most games run at more than 15 frames per second

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Trying saying that when your 3DS drops dead on battery because you like playing 3D games.

Because 3D requires so much extra power, when the same number of pixels are being drawn, right? There is no evidence to suggest that it would drain the battery further on the 3DS in 3D mode anymore than it would in 2D mode. Yes, more power to operate with an 800x240 screen than a 400x240, I won't argue that, but the 3DS will always run under 800x240, as 2D mode is just repeating the same column of pixels every other column. For all we know, the 2D mode is just the 3D mode with the two cameras being positioned and oriented the exact same way to make it look like it's only 400x240.

One reason why the PSP had poor battery life was because of the UMD drive taking up a lot of the juice. Later PSP titles managed to optimize the need to use the drive so it would use less power overall, but it was still a power hog. The DS (and 3DS) use solid state memory, requiring no mechanical parts.

The battery still sucked if you didn't use the UMD drive. I downloaded all my games pirated, and the battery still only lasted like 6-7 hours.

 

[Law]

Trying saying that when your 3DS drops dead on battery because you like playing 3D games.

Because 3D requires so much extra power, when the same number of pixels are being drawn, right? There is no evidence to suggest that it would drain the battery further on the 3DS in 3D mode anymore than it would in 2D mode. Yes, more power to operate with an 800x240 screen than a 400x240, I won't argue that, but the 3DS will always run under 800x240, as 2D mode is just repeating the same column of pixels every other column. For all we know, the 2D mode is just the 3D mode with the two cameras being positioned and oriented the exact same way to make it look like it's only 400x240.

One reason why the PSP had poor battery life was because of the UMD drive taking up a lot of the juice. Later PSP titles managed to optimize the need to use the drive so it would use less power overall, but it was still a power hog. The DS (and 3DS) use solid state memory, requiring no mechanical parts.

The battery still sucked if you didn't use the UMD drive. I downloaded all my games pirated, and the battery still only lasted like 6-7 hours.

As long as you don't have it clocked 333/166 constantly you can easily push 8 hours (honestly, when would you even be playing for that long a stretch without access to a power source?)

edit: and according to nintendo.com, the DS has a battery life of about 10 hours, so 7 hours for something that is much more powerful isn't really a bad amount of time.

 

[gamefreak94]

Well to be fair, it is portable.

There are people who gives crap on PSP because "according to them"(imo isn't real) PSP has too many ports/spin off and no handheld games...and now this people are cheering for Zelda remake, Star Fox 64 remake, SSF4 port, and a bunch of spin offs...uhm...

No doubt that in the future we'll see some "handheld games" for 3DS...but now this games are absent and some people are a litte contradicting themselves

Dude, i wanna see your definition of a spin offs, b/c then ALL Nintendo first party games are spin offs right?
Spin Offs don't really piss me off, they aren't the same as the original game so if they are good, then good. For example, I actually like FF spin offs more than the FF series(Newer ones) themselves.

Remakes are awesome IMO b/c it lets people who didn't play the original experience the awesomeness of the games(as long as it wasn't changed too much), and i think that's what all of us gamers forget, they don't make games just for us individually but for everyone.

Ports, it kind of depends on the game. I actually don't really care for a SSF4 port to the 3DS.

Offtopic: Did you know awesomeness is a word?! I just found out now XD
Also about graphics, I think the Graphics on the current ps3 console is enough to suffice right now. I mean we don't need graphics that makes the game look real, we play games to get away from reality not to see a new dimension of it, although I would love to see what some game designers could pull off with the background scenery.

 

[ojsinnerz.]

People still think the PSP doesn't have any games? Woah, people must really love living in the past and spout useless unfunny garbage.

 

[8BitWalugi]

People still think the PSP doesn't have any games? Woah, people must really love living in the past and spout useless unfunny garbage.

I can name many awesome games. Gundam vs Gundam NEXT PLUS, MGS: Peace Walker, Little Big Planet, Tekken 6, YGO - Tag Force 5, Gran Turismo, Taiko, etc.

 

[mangaTom]

I don't really care even if psp2 is as powerful as PS3, as long as it has good games, not just eye candy games, then I'll buy it.(I'll probably buy it later anyway after I have my 3DS.

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