1. SushiKing

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    Sure, I enjoy opening Loot boxes... Not when they are $199 a box...
     
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    An ethical surprise mechanic?

    Now I’m not the person to know this, never have and never will purchase loot boxes.

    So perhaps someone else can answer this and I may change my mind, when you buy them, do they say, a tree has been planted in your name, a donation has been made to the Red Cross, and so on.

    If that’s the case, I may actually purchase some of these ethical products.
     
  3. SexySpai

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    I just thought it was funny that EA was comparing loot boxes to something I thought was illegal.
     
  4. fringle

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    Oh boy! If I buy one are they going to send me the chocolate coating in the mail?
     
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    fuck off ea just fuck off. the day ea goes out of business will be a glorious day indeed!
     
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    ...Did they... Just... You can't compare lootboxes with Kinder Eggs! I don't recall anytime where we were allowed to eat the case after taking the contents out. And it's not even fucking chocolate.
     
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    Ironic
     
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    Games by themselves don't have to be addictive. That's misrepresenting. Many games are designed to be addictive, but they are not by definition. There are psychological tendencies you can exploit with certain mechanics, such as the classical skinner-box: Overwatch has infinite leveling and every level gives you a lootbox; League of Legends had a level 30 cap, but they removed it and added infinite leveling as well as crate/key unlocks for challenges; all to keep you playing far longer than you would normally enjoy playing the game.

    Games don't need to be addictive, they should however be compelling. Civilization is a near perfect example of this exact trait of gaming. It employs nearly no abusive game mechanics that are designed to keep you playing longer than you would normally be having fun, but "One more turn" syndrome is a thing many people experience. Why? Because the game compels people to keep playing, to see how the game plays out, how their story wins or ends. There is something to be said about how this abuses gestalt and cognative biases for completing tasks, however, it is far less of an issue and doesn't train the brain in the same way that a task-reward system like lootboxes or gambling do.

    You say that kinder eggs by definition aren't addictive, but I question that notion. It works on the same fundamentals as classical conditioning and task-reward systems: open the egg, get the toy. I propose an alternative: Disney Kinder Eggs: all your favorite princesses are behind the chocolate. Now you need to buy 100 of them to get your child their Elsa. Yes, kinder eggs are indeed addictive, they just don't have enough of a reward to develop the conditioning.
     
  9. Sonic Angel Knight

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    There is just certain places that don't get certain products. For example, I never saw the item on the right, I always knew the item on the left. That's just how it is for me at least. It's just like that sometimes. :ninja:

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  10. Memoir

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    My daughter is addicted to the "black bag" toys. Always wanting one. Always asking for them. Yes, it is the parents responsibility to teach their children the difference of want and need. However, we can not 100% control their actions. No matter how hard we try.

    I was a good kid, outside of the fact that I still "borrowed" my moms debit card to purchase things. Protections be damned, you should have to verify you are the name on the card and that you are legally allowed to make this purchase. The unfortunate truth is that this is not feasible.

    So, EA needs to take responsibility in their egregious actions. Also, it's not just children. It's an unethical practice for gamers of all kinds to be subjected to. Remember Battlefront 2? You either had to put an unrealistic amount of time into the game, or spend some coin to get what you want. It's underhanded, sleazy and downright wrong.

    I agree that parents need a better grip on certain aspects, but I do point the blame at EA and the like as well.
     
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    Here in my country, kinder eggs are banned :P
    No company can offer "gifts" packed with unhealthy food nor they can advertise their products ussing cartoon characters. as an example happy meal includes apple, sugar free juice, cherry tomato, and the most basic of burgers just to fill the law and being able to keep offering toys.
     
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    Get em out of here! I'll be sure to add this to my checklist of reasons I want to move to the UK.

    Seems the banning of loot boxes is picking up steam... this excites me. I look forward to this crap ending for good, everywhere.
     
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    The ones you're seeing are called Kinder Joy Eggs & do not have a toy inside. Kinder Surprise Eggs are illegal in the US. :)
     
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    F the government. If person A wants to sell a digital item & person B wants to buy it, they should have zero involvement. This is all about the government controlling what you can and can't do.
     
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    Wow.
    Seriously, i absolutely dislike EAs policis, but they said something realy true i never even bothered to think about.
    Lootboxes are definitly gambling. But arent those Kindereggs also?

    Just thinking back, standing infront of the Kinderegg tower, shaking one after another to be sure (as sure as a kid could be :P) that i get what i wanted.
    Now thinking back, and cant argue against the statement of it beeing the same as Kindereggs.

    New Slogan:
    EA KILLED MY CHILDHOOD!!!111 :P
     
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    So if you had a daughter and she spent most of her wages on lootboxes youd be fine with tht-as others been saying these digital items should be earnt in the fkin game and thts it-thers no other way anyone can defend lootboxes
     
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    ban happy meals
     
  18. Jacklack3

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    People use the argument that it's not gambling since you can't lose.

    So if I opened a casino and just made it so the minimum was 0.25 cents (meaning you can't lose) can I open up my casino to kids?
     
  19. eriol33

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    I don't know one which one I hate more, EA or the gamers who made this business model "sustainable"
     
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    Disgusting. Shame on EA.

    Agree 100%. I wish that we could do away with that kind of randomness at all levels, but I'll be happy with just seeing it gone from games.

    At least with physical items, you are able to actually do stuff with them... Trade, give away, sell, or skip the randomness and buy one off eBay.
     
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