DVD+R vs. DVD-R? My results & your thoughtd

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  1. astr0z0mb1e
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    Okay so I just modded my Wii with the TH, HBC & BL v. 3 Gamma & it was time to burn some ISO's so I got some media to test different results.

    I always see that people say DVD-R is the way to go so I purchased Verbatim -R & I had some Memorex -R to test. I also used Fuji DVD+R.

    I am using a BENQ 1620 to burn the ISO's & have changed the book type to DVD-ROM when buring with IMGBURN. So far my results have favored the DVD+R when using dvdinfopro to see the quality ouput.

    My question is this... Is it okay to use the DVD-R's with mid 80's quality??? I have been getting between 85 - 88% with both -R's.

    However with the DVD+R I have been sitting at about 93 - 95%. Anythought???

    I know people rave about the DVD-, but I am wondering how many test the quality.

    PS - I have burned all discs on 2, 2.4, 4, 6, & 8..... 4x game me the best results for all three media types.
     
  2. ether2802

    ether2802 we have the techno...!!

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    Jeez thanks for the info and the wasting of media, I do really apreciate hence my media is +R, I'll try the dvdinfo (free) and post results too...!!! [​IMG]
     
  3. kitt050383

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    Oh geeze another dvd media/speed topic....
    But good for you for testing the media...
    I get the best results w/ Verb. +R Booktype Dvd-rom... at 2.4x burn....

    But thats just me... To each his own...

    -Kitt050383
     
  4. moosh01

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    You can get great quality burns with dvd+r but alot of people have problems with their wii reading them. The wii seems the favor dvd-r
     
  5. wolffangalchemist

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    so Memorex -r tested on par with virbatim -r?
    i new Memorex -r was good media! [​IMG]
     
  6. toastert2003

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    thanks for all the testing.

    i have around 20 games that I have backed up on memorex -r and have, to date, had zero problems with them. save me from wearing out/tearing up/stepping on, and breaking my originals, but i have yet to burn on a +r.

    I hate to start now.

    I wonder though, does the Wii have several different internal dvd drives depending on year/when/where you bought the wii itself? and if so, could the different internal drives affect the wii's backuploader compatibilty as far as playing +r/-r better than other drives?

    I haven't yet tried COW:waw on my wii yet, but i lent my friend a copy of my rip, to try on his newly twi hack: wiigator 3 gamma wii, and he's played it to the end twice without a single loud noise coming from his drive and absolutely no problems.. burnt on Memorex -r

    Lots of people complained this disc made the drive run awful.
     
  7. wolffangalchemist

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    i hear ppl say that too, but nary a problem with the Memorex -r's for me.
    it depends on the manufacture you get with Memorex really, say you have RITEKF1 manu id? i had slow down after a week with them but then again ritek is known for degrading issues.
    but the rest i got were CMC, MAG, AM3 manu id not one problem out of them and all the 15 20 and 50 packs i have picked up around where i live are that manu id only the 5 packs are the ritek.
     
  8. kashin

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    I've used Verbatim and Sony +R's and i've yet to have any problem with the 50+ games i burned.
     
  9. harryk

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    I think the Wii's drive suddenly sounding irritating has nothing (or at least not much) to do with burned games. Mines started sounding weird half a year ago. Also, Brawl makes it sound far more weird than burned discs...
     
  10. astr0z0mb1e
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    Cool. Thanks for the opinions..

    So I think that the VERB-R is the best for me, but is it cool to use a game with a 85% disk quality as per dvdinfo pro or should I just play it through & see if it errors out???

    Thanks for all the quick comments & help much appreciated.
     
  11. djdynamite123

    djdynamite123 Master Of Hardcore!

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    Whatever brand you buy, stick to -Rs
     
  12. Meharis

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    i burned some games yesterday e.g. sonic, tomb raider and so on, on TDK +R and they all work without problems. But COD 5 gave me some headeache. The SP works flawlessly but in MP sometimes it showed an error screen. but to be honest i think its the readspeed of the wii, cod seems to stream some data during gameplay because the drive is constantly working even in MP.
     
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    you expect that on COD5 especially on the backup loaders, it's hard work even at 6x speed never mind 3x
     
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    jepp thats what i wanted to say but i think when the +R are booktyped right there is no really problem with them compared to -R as long as they are a good brand. btw NEVER EVER rely on cheap discs für backup of ANYTHING !!! Can`t tell that often enough !
     
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    The general consensus seems to be dvd-r's, which is what I use on my PS2. I've tried the following: Maxell (Couldn't boot anything.), Sony (Worked really well, just normal Target bought ones.) and Taiyo Yuden. (Perfect, and cheap if bought in bulk on Amazon.)
     
  16. air2004

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    if you can get the wii to read a +r disk without changing the book type , then there is a problem with your wii.... as for the -r disk type any brand will do , I say this because I use the cheapest media I can find , and I have a lot of games
     
  17. ether2802

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    OK my results:

    ImgBurn AUTO (6X)___ 98.77%___SONY D21_______SONY
    Nero 16X____________98.68%___SONY D21_______SONY
    Nero 8X_____________96.14%___CMC MAG M01___MEMOREX
    Nero 16X_____________98.43%___MCC 004_______VERBATIM

    All of them DVD+R, verbatim started to go up and up, and for some time I could see the 99.56% but then at the end of the test, it went down to 98.43%, not bad at all....!!! [​IMG]
     
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    I use Memorex -R and every one makes noise I have tried burning x4 and x8 in Nero and ImgBurn didnt make a difference. Every single one works though, load times can be a bit slow as you listen the drive read read read but meh I have a feeling its the drive over the DVDs.

    Thing is my retail version of ScarFace makes the same reading noises. I have a Wii from the first release, waited 18 hours in the cold Colorado snow lol (ok it was not snowing but still fookin cold). I never see any one comment on how old their Wii is when referring to the drive noises its kinda annoying as I would like to find out if its a drive issue for sure.

    I will test some of my burns with this prog. and edit my post.
     
  19. Wiisel

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    Philips +R from asda when their cheap have been perfect for me and Verbatim +R when Maplins have them on offer ive tried -R's and my Wii seems to hate them
     
  20. DjoeN

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    Somewhere in this potatoland!
    Modded Wii
    I always use:
    - Verbatims DVD+R
    - EMTEC DVD+R
    - TDK DVD+R

    Burn always with:
    - BenQ DC DQ60 at 8x
    - Pioneer DVR-111D at 8X
    - Optiarc AD7191A at 8X

    Unmodded Wii (but with Softchip)
    I use:
    - Verbatims DVD-R
    - TDK DVD-R

    Burn always with:
    - Pioneer DVR-111D at 4X
    - Optiarc AD7191A at 4X
    (BenQ burns give problems)

    Never had a problem.

    When i use the -r's on the modded wii, it works without problems
    When i use the +R on the unmodded wii with softchip, all -r do work but most +r's have problems (not all)