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Sandworm size was larger than other one! Wow...

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The movie premiered in Venice and writeups and reviews have started trickling in, and a worrying number of them are calling it the "Dune remake".
Now part of me wants to see a review of the movie that actually treats is like a remake of Lynch's Dune, and dead serious comments on the differences and similarities and merits of both. "They removed the Atreides' advanced weapons technology and replaced it with space kung-fu for some reason." And so on.
 
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I think it needed to be 3 hrs so they could reach a better place to end.
This was the "boring" movie. It left me appreciating it more and more after seeing it. I am really hoping that they deliver on the second half.

I don't know what your idea of a better place to end is, but the framework has been established. As for pacing and plot delivery, I can only imagine it in constant acceleration. If the movie ended on a real cliff-hanger, I think I would have been disappointing (irrevocably).
 
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Where would you have ended it?

I was thinking about this today and I guess it wasn't the actual place it ended that bothered me, but the fact that the scene itself was a bit too short followed by an abrupt end. So, I would've either drawn that scene out a bit more or added some more exposition after it. Maybe it's just me though, I found it a bit jarring the way it suddenly ended considering how well-paced it had been up to that point.
 

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I was thinking about this today and I guess it wasn't the actual place it ended that bothered me, but the fact that the scene itself was a bit too short followed by an abrupt end. So, I would've either drawn that scene out a bit more or added some more exposition after it. Maybe it's just me though, I found it a bit jarring the way it suddenly ended considering how well-paced it had been up to that point.
I wasn't ready for it to end either, but I anticipated it leaving me wanting.
 

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Saw it yesterday.


Like I said, Vileneuve was perfect for this. The film is visually impressive, dragged out as fuck, and chock-full of navel gazing. As Dune should be. (FITE ME) Unfortunately, to achieve the long, slow, atmospheric, impactful scenes, he dumped a whole lot of stuff. Like, a lot. Despite the valiant efforts of the infodumps strewn across the movie, a great amount of plot and worldbuilding was left out. Some scenes and plot points and characters fell completely flat without the worldbuilding to explain their significance. All so people on screen could spend more time walking. Or flying. Or staring. Or tripping balls. And yes, those scenes are more powerful for it. But the rest of the movie is not.

But like it or not, for better or for worse, this is the "definitive" Dune adaptation now.
 
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Saw it yesterday.


Like I said, Vileneuve was perfect for this. The film is visually impressive, dragged out as fuck, and chock-full of navel gazing. As Dune should be. (FITE ME) Unfortunately, to achieve the long, slow, atmospheric, impactful scenes, he dumped a whole lot of stuff. Like, a lot. Despite the valiant efforts of the infodumps strewn across the movie, a great amount of plot and worldbuilding was left out. Some scenes and plot points and characters fell completely flat without the worldbuilding to explain their significance. All so people on screen could spend more time walking. Or flying. Or staring. Or tripping balls. And yes, those scenes are more powerful for it. But the rest of the movie is not.

But like it or not, for better or for worse, this is the "definitive" Dune adaptation now.
It's a bit weird, he got the pacing right but why wasn't he brave enough to make it 3 hours like Peter Jackson would've.
 

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This movie was the biggest disappointment of the year. I love the book and have read all the Frank Herbert books and some of his son and Brandon Sandersons. The universe created in the books was awesome. The David Lynch movie while flawed terribly at least left out no pivotal characters. The mini series remains my favourite adaptation of the book. The 2021 movie succeeded in confusing the main concept of the book that Spice is the most precious substance in the universe without it space travel is impossible. Without it the guild and the Navigators are blind. Without it the Bene Geserit would not have the water of life. Too much missing from the source material. The new movie is missing so much more explanation. It treated the fan audiences as dumb. The only thing I like was the cast. Although Feyd, the Emperor, the space guild and Navigators should have had a presence in the movie. All in all I hated it and I think it takes a steaming dump on an absolutely incredible book.
 

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I was thinking about this today and I guess it wasn't the actual place it ended that bothered me, but the fact that the scene itself was a bit too short followed by an abrupt end. So, I would've either drawn that scene out a bit more or added some more exposition after it. Maybe it's just me though, I found it a bit jarring the way it suddenly ended considering how well-paced it had been up to that point.

I have to agree with you that this was a very awkward place to end the first part. I thought the movie would end at the time skip, which would have made more sense. Having seen it, I think a better place to stop would have been when Paul and Jessica first encountered the Fremen. They barely evade the worm, hide in the cave, and the Fremen reveal themselves... the end, to be continued.
Where the movie ended is really neither here nor there.
 

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We loved the movie. It was moderately calm, moderately dynamic. There is a storyline, true-to-life fight scenes. And the adaptation is very close to the book.
 
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