DSi XL not sleeping when lid is closed?

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  1. Snitzle
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    Just got this off Ebay and the seller didn't make this fault clear. How would I go about repairing?
     
  2. FAST6191

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    Apparently the DSi uses a magnet just like the original DS.

    https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Support/...omatically-switches-to-Sleep-Mode-240628.html

    "a magnetic switch located near the Start and Select Buttons"

    Find a magnet and wave it around near those buttons.

    That will tell you if it is the switch inside the console or the (lack of) a magnet to trigger it.

    While it is not impossible for a magnetic switch to break, especially as this is likely a self contained surface mount affair and not a clunking relay or something, it would be very unusual. More likely is someone dropped it or replaced a screen and failed to put the speaker back in or back in properly. If it is the latter then disassemble the top screen and try to relocate the speaker, if it is the former then we are going to have to play electronics debugger and for the amount of effort I think I would sooner replace the board with one from somewhere, or I would learn to live with it and hope I never wanted to play the fly swatting minigame of warioware.
     
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    Holy crap man/girl. I really appreciate the long reply and help.

    I'll give it a debug when I get a chance and report back. I presume it easier to replace/fix the speakers than replace the switch on the bored then. If so I'd rather spend the money on a new one than go through the hassle of a big fix as it was only cheap.
     
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    That was a long reply? I would advise against going through my post history then.

    The difficulty of the fix is relative to what you have, what you know and how good you are at this sort of thing.

    If it turns out the speaker is just off its mount or something and fixing involves unscrewing the screen, popping it back on the locator pins and putting it back together then I guess that would be easier. If it turns out someone really broke something inside there then you are going to have to align it manually, tape it/glue it down and get it done that way.

    It if turns out the magnetic sensor/switch is broken then yeah that would be annoying to try to sort, and it might not even be the sensor as much as some other component or trace in the chain that is acting up. I have not heard of this happening to a DSi before, but at the same time it is not as immediate and deal breaking as broken screen, not charging, volume issues, power slider or normal game/shoulder buttons not working which we see often enough -- within the DS/DSi system it is actually counted as another button so some games do use it but most just trigger sleep mode when it gets activated, which for most is just a minor convenience and around here flash carts were popular and don't actually drop their power consumption much in sleep mode. Likewise I have seen enough industrial and automotive magnetic sensors fail and those things are built to handle far more abuse than the DSi ever was.
    I feel bad at times telling people to just get a whole new board/device but where I would bother to go through a £1000 laptop, a £[if sir has to ask] industrial machine that is costing untold money being down or just a really rare device I take a look at the DSi and there are a thousand for sale right now probably for less than it would cost for a few hours in the electronics shop or even to think about gearing up to make an honest go at fixing it.
     
  5. Snitzle
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    Longer than what I expected, anyway. I find responses in forums of other expertise tend to be blunt and to the point. Guess I'm not used to GBATemp!

    I planned on collecting DSi XL anyway so I am destined to buy another in the future. It would just be nice to have it working honestly. I've yet to find a magnet hanging around however my housemate is going to liberate one from their workplace to test.

    I had a quick look on Ebay and could really only find spare parts. Any places you know that sell DSi XL motherboards? I might take a whack at fixing it despite time/cost for fun and I'm a bit of a noob in these parts.
     
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    If amazon and ebay are not turning up replacement DSi XL motherboards then it might be time to look into cannibalising another. Computer games are not really like laptops, cars or audio equipment and specialist vendors that deal with such things are a bit thin on the ground after your basic replacement screens, cart sockets, shells and normal buttons. The best are things like hot pink systems with scratched screens and no battery some parent just wants to get rid of, however most seldom find themselves with that kind of good fortune. Still systems with some cosmetic damage or damage unlikely to trouble what you are doing/fixing are things to be on the lookout for, and such things may even be cheaper than raw motherboards in some cases.

    If you have the motherboard there then as long as you have the relevant screwdrivers (Nintendo tends to favour a three bladed screw called a triwing) and some basic opening tools (if you have seen a phone repair kit then that sort of thing) it is just tedious.

    If you wanted to go through a theoretically broken motherboard, hunt down the fault and play the electrical engineer then that would take a bit more, plenty doable (there are laptop and phone repair classes that will cover everything you will want to know to stand a good chance here, and they run over a couple of intensive weeks) but between the classes, time and setup for the tools you could buy a lot of DSis.

    Don't know what to suggest for magnets in normal households these days. Time was the seals on fridges used to have weak ones but I tried mine with a DS before the last post and not much happened (and waving a screwdriver that normally struggles to keep hold of laptop screws even vaguely near triggers it), I imagine you would have tried the classic fridge magnet already should it have been an option. If one is coming later then I will skip telling you to build an electromagnet.
     
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    Check that the sound from the right side speaker is working.
    (simple i know - but sometimes people replace the top lcd and don't have a soldering iron so they use dodgy methods of connecting the speakers)​
     
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    in a cardboard box
    I would've said sing a lullaby to it or you could just follow FAST6191 advice.
     
  9. Snitzle
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    I really appreciate the help guys. received said liberated magnets the other day and unfortunately placing it where the switch is does nothing. It appears the switch itself has broken so I'm probably better off leaving it as is for the time being.

    Bit of a shame but I can deal with just playing this not on the go for the time being.