DSi - Prehaps it could manage low graphics N64 Games?

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  1. wildfire95
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    Since the DSi will apprently be "more powerfull", could it be possible to emulate some of the older, less graphic games on the N64 onto the DSi?

    Or if someone was to "down" the graphics so that they didnt need as much as the original N64 games would demand on a DS.

    Any ideas?
     


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    DSi is graphics-wise the same as the older DSs
     
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    But wouldnt the extra power help us attempt it?
     
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    The DSi is capable of better graphics.
    we just haven't seen any exclusive DSi games.

    The DSi has a 133 MHz processors and 16mb of RAM

    the DS has two processors. one 67 MHz and one 33 MHz
    The DS has 4mb of Ram.

    The improved power of the DSi will probably make us have perfect emulation for SNES
    but I don't think perfect N64 emulation is possible. If a team of homebrewers worked
    on it they might be able to get a couple of games to run but I don't think it'll run at full speed.
    The PSP has a 333 MHz processor and its N64 emulator still isn't perfect.
     
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    nope, impossible.

    n64 emulation is still sketchy on PC. the DSi doesn't have a 64 bit processor for a start; which, helps immensely when emulating a 64 bit system, which explains why PC n64 emulators require far more power than the PC PS1 emulators
     
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    Plus, lack of buttons!!
     
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    Ah well, it should add extra power for the other consoles i suppose [​IMG]
     
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    well if a PS1 emulator takes less power, would it be possible? I've always wanted to play FF7 on my ds, but haven't been able to get anyone to try. I'm bad with computers or I would try myself. But is PS1 possible?
     
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    simple answer: nope
     
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    I hope they port Conkers, possibly releasing it on the DSiStore.
     
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    What about a Gameboy Advance emulator? Sure GBA slot is gone but with extra processing power and RAM maybe GBA emulation should be more feasible?

    I mean if SNES emulation its likely to improve then GBA emulation outta be at least possible.
     
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    We won't really know until we can gain access to the DSi's updated hardware to see what it can do. Until it gets cracked, we'll only have the same resources we've had all along with the DS.
     
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    The DSi is powerfull enough to emulate PS1 games, but probably will be far from perfect...

    PSP emulates PS1 because was build based on it, like the Wii is based on the Game Cube.

    ...

    Sega CD and 32X emulation would be cool =D

    GBA is possible too.

    True.

    We know that officially the DSi has been cracked, but the info was not released yet for some reason.

    Rumors are saying that the exploit already found would turn possible play DS games without a Flashcard, but for some reason (probably related to the fact you can play without having to buy a FlashCard) they have not released the information yet.
     
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    Last time i checked the console that is emulating another console has to be at least 4x stronger than the console being emulated.
     
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    I heard about 8x but yeah stuff like psone to psp doesnt need 8 cause their sorta similar systems.
     
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    n64 on DS does not seem real anytime cuz it's like putting a sword in a rock, it would be painful and end up breaking the rock
     
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    DSi is more powerful than N64.

    Its just, it needs to be a LOT more powerful to emulate it.
     
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    There is no "magic number" like that. It depends on a multitude of factors, including the CPU architecture type, availability of RAM, special hardware on either side, etc. As an example, SNES emulation on the DS is mostly only accomplished because the SNES's graphics hardware is similar enough to the DS's dedicated 2D hardware that graphics commands can be quickly translated between the two, so slow software emulation isn't needed. Same with Genesis emulation (compare hardware-rendering jEnesisDS with software-rendering PicoDriveDS). Other systems (like the N64) might not have anything in common with the DS's 2D hardware, so such a technique would not work.
     
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    hey!!
    i got an idea!!
    why dont we hire bill gates to hack in to nintendo's servers, grab all the n64's game's source code
    and port them to the ds!!!

    its almost like asking this.
    asking people to do the impossible
     
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    Kinda offtopic, but do you guys think that nintendo still has like, the source codes of all these old games?
     

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