DSi owners get a slap in the face with Band Hero DS

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  1. Link5084
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    http://kotaku.com/5321007/the-band-hero-ds...pheral-revealed

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    This fall, Band Hero DS will allow four DS systems to link up for guitar-bass-vocals-drum gameplay. And for optimal drumming, the game comes bundled with a "drum grip" revealed here.

    The Band Hero DS drum grip is a piece of rubberized silicon that slips over a DS Lite. And is designed to better enable the feel of rapidly playing the drums than, say, tapping on drum icons on the DS' touch screen.

    The peripheral will come bundled with each copy of Band Hero DS, which will also include a single DS Lite-compatible guitar grip.

    The drum grip, like the rest of Band Hero DS is not compatible with the DSi. In the case of the drum grip, it simply doesn't fit the system. I touched it briefly when it was wrapped around a DS Lite at an event in New York City last week. It felt snug and the pads felt comfortable to tap.

    The grip puts drum pads over the DS Lite's d-pad and face buttons. The game's executive producer, David Nathanielsz, told Kotaku that the reason for adding the peripheral was to make it more comfortable to rapidly tap to the game's drum patterns. "They have this really nice push-back, bounce-back feel to them," he said. "They fit your thumbs well. If you start banging on that d-pad [without it,] you'd get blisters and you won't have that feel."
     


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    wow its looking great cant wait [​IMG]
     
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    We already have a topic about this.
     
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    so wait... just the rubber grip thing won't fit over a DSi... so exactly how are DSi owners getting slapped in the face? they can still use the touch screen...

    Oh, and what about DSphat users?? I'm still one of those people! I'm getting slapped in the face too then!
     
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    This is stupid. But still there was an article somewhere that they are making a DSi Guitar Hero.
     
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    meh.... they can live without it, I'm sure.

    People can still play GH without the grips with the button hacks, so maybe someone will do likewise for this.
     
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    Doesn't matter anyways, Activision just wants extra money for stupid peripherals they want to sell for the dumb handheld editions they keep making. No one with a brain will buy it anyways. They should just go to button controls like Rock Band Unplugged did, which we'll likely be seeing something similar to on the DS when Lego Rock Band rolls around for it. At least, I hope Harmonix does the smart thing and do that with it.
     
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    Why would anyone in their right minds do that?
    They are requiring that you must have an out-dated piece of hardware to use their product!
     
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    u would have to anyways coz the dsi doesn't have the GBA slot for the guitar grip, i know that flashcard owners can use the button hack but the developers are not making the game for that console??
     
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    They know some gamers will groan. But they're confident: you just need to try it. "It" is not Guitar Hero 5 DS, which you might have expected this fall. There's no such thing. Enter Band Hero DS.

    This November, Activision's Vicarious Visions studio will release its fourth music game for the Nintendo DS. Band Hero DS follows a trio of shrunken Guitar Hero games that were playable on Nintendo's handheld with a bundled guitar grip that plugged into the Nintendo DS' Game Boy Advance slot. The add-on simulated the feel of a guitar fret.

    The portable Guitar Heroes were hits with kids but have suffered mockery by many reader of sites like this one, who have surmised that the games on the DS are only good for hand cramps and embarrassment.

    "No matter what your game is, you're always going to have a subset of people who won't want to play it for philosophical reasons," David Nathanielsz, the game's executive producer at Vicarious Visions told Kotaku in a phone interview earlier this week. "That's unfortunate for us because there is a large group of people who see pictures of Guitar Hero DS or Band Hero DS and say, 'That looks dumb' or whatever. 'I never want to play it.'"

    But play it and you just might be converted "I don't think we'll get everyone," he said. "But if we can get the message out there for people to try it…"

    What if people could get over their apprehensions? What would they find?

    Vicarious Visions' new game, Band Hero DS lets four people use their systems to play in a virtual band together. Its drum and guitar peripherals work only with the middle version of the DS, the DS Lite. Players can attach the guitar grip to play lead guitar or bass, wrap a sleeve of rubberized silicone around the system — the "drum grip" — and tap on mini drum pads to play drums or sing into the DS mic for vocals. And gamers can configure their band with any combination of those instruments, allowing for an all-vocals band or one with two drummers.

    Imagine a quartet of players jamming together. The DS of each of the four gamers, linked over local wireless, emits the music of the game's more than 30 master tracks. Unlike Daigasso Band Brothers, the Nintendo-published multiplayer music game released in Japan in 2004, each system won't just play the sounds of the instrument its gameplay is tied to. Each one plays all of the music.

    Being on a fourth iteration of a design helps. The developers of the portable Heroes repeatedly tweak their systems for detecting the strumming — and now also the drumming — efforts of their players. Some players, Nathanielsz said, lift their stylus after each strum. Some never lose contact with the screen. The game has to recognize that variety. Vicarious Visions has cleared elements from the touch screen and tweaked the programming again to improve strumming responsiveness.

    For drumming, the game will recognize taps on its drum pads, not, as some may have anticipated, on the DS touch screen. A touch screen interface was considered, Nathanielsz said, but the DS' inability to recognize more than one tap on its touch screen at a time introduced the risk of the system failing to recognize two rapidly successive taps, particularly if the player was inputting them with two styli or fingers on the left and right sides of the screen. Going with something more button-based literally felt better for Vicarious Visions. "When we sat down and started prototyping drum play we wanted to replicate the rhythmic, kinesthetic experience of drumming," Nathanielsz said. "What we quickly realized is the movement of your thumbs in a horizontal and vertical direction was really compelling and fun." The gameplay that way should have the quickness and a bit of the physicality of drumming in real life.

    The new game also includes WarioWare-sized, music-themed mini-game challenges that can be thrown at players in a competitive mode to throw them off or can be given to a struggling player in co-op mode to earn a boost. All songs are unlocked at the beginning of the game, but an expanded single player batch of 200 Achievements-style "Awards" spread across four instrument-based progressions has been included to help add longevity.

    The game does not support the DS' Wi-Fi functionality and Nathanielsz said there are no plans to support downloadable content (as expected given the DS Lite's lack of storage capacity).

    Why isn't this game called Guitar Hero 5 DS? Activision is splitting its rock-based Hero games this fall with both a Guitar Hero sequel and the new Band Hero console and portable game. The latter has a broader and more pop-inclusive soundtrack. Tracks include artists ranging from Queen to Pink to No Doubt.

    To the skeptics, note Vicarious Visions' philosophy with these games. "We're not trying to replicate 100% the experience of Guitar Hero on the DS," Nathanielsz said. "The console games might be trying to make you feel like a guitarist... we're trying to abstract that one step. How can we make a great music game based on playing in a band?"
     
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    not being funny but i bought the first guitar hero game for the DS so ive already got the guitar grip, if i want the drum grip am i goin to have to buy the full bundle for this game, which meens i'll then have 2 guitar grips, 1 of which i dont want????????

    And the drum grip is black which will prob look a fuckin mess on my DS coz i got the white one??
     
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    I hope they release the DSi GH soon, since it's too awkward to play with the Grip FIX.
     
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    dang...im in the DS phat boat as well...at least with guitar hero, they included an adaptor so old systems could be used... the fact that its only compatable with 1 of the 3 ds out there is pretty lame
     
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    Sounds like the talk of someone with a DSi to me. [​IMG]

    I, like most people, didn't see the need to upgrade to the DSi. I would never get a GH on a Handheld anyway (Honestly, it's stupid. Go play a real system.) but it seems like the people who upgraded are missing out.
     
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    Missing out on what? This piece of crap? [​IMG]
    The other DS Guitar Heros are better.
     
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    I've yet to play a worthwhile music-based game on the DS that isn't called Rhythm Heaven, Ouendan or Elite Beat Agents... So, as an owner of two DSi's and many other DS Lites, I can safely say... "I don't care."
     
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    Heh I have a DSL myself but I do not even care for this game.
    I like to play the button remapped guitar hero`s.
    Guess I will stick to that instead of drumming on my DS. [​IMG]

    Greetz, Vistabuser.
     
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    Looks pretty crap either way...i really wouldn't see why i would want one.
     
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    If there is money to be made, there is a made in China 3rd party item. Anyways I think it wont matterm uch.
     
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    How's this a slap in the face to DSi owners? The lame guitar hero games don't work either. Why would we care about another lame game like this?
     

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