DS Lite vs i, which one is 'hassle-free'?

Discussion in 'NDS - Flashcarts and Accessories' started by Phoenix88, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. Phoenix88

    Phoenix88 Newbie

    Apr 24, 2010
    United States
    Hello everyone!

    I know I'm asking a weird question, I appreciate any feedback! My question is that, after playing with the Wii for like the past two years I've had a lot of problems playing backups and such. I mean with every single system software update from Nintendo I've been going through a lot of online guides to make the games work or simply keeping my homebrew stuff safe.

    And now I'm gonna get my first DS, I'm deciding between a DS Lite and DSi. I know the specs and their differences, I just wanna know which one is easier to run the games/homebrews on? I know that DSi has firmware that's being updated regularly by Nintendo, it reminds me of Wii with its scary system updates. So to make it clear, for a person looking to play homebrew/roms on the DS, which one is homebrew-friendly? DS lite or DSi?

    Thanks in advance.
  2. Porobu

    Porobu Gbatemps Shiny Latias

    Sep 12, 2009
    If you want gba dsl or Dsi + Iplayer or SCDSTwo
    If you dont want gba and like dsi Dsi
    I have a Dslite and works perfectly and it was cheap for me 129€ (but now its cheaper... 99€ [​IMG] [​IMG])

  3. connorroy

    connorroy Advanced Member

    Mar 13, 2010
    well i would recommend the dsi because there is now a large selection of flash carts for homebrew and considering that nintendo have only brought out 1 update for the dsi and that was quickly patched.
  4. Takeshi

    Takeshi GBAtemp Addict

    Jun 1, 2004
    If you want to be absolutely safe from future firmware updates get a DSlite. However, since anti-piracy measures are actually in the games most of the time (there was only one firmware update since the dsi was released in europe for example) the ROM compatibility is the same for both, as it depends on the flashcard you're using.
  5. Diosoth

    Diosoth GBAtemp Fan

    Nov 25, 2008
    United States
    DS Lites will be cheaper used(I see them as low as $50) and have GBA support. However, the d-pad might not be that great(I find it can be annoying, it's rather small) and the hinge is known to snap. The DSi has more new features but until the thing's cracked you're basically getting a fancy Lite out of it with a flash card.
  6. Ammako

    Ammako GBAtemp Guru

    Dec 22, 2009
    Why not?
    R4 has Wood R4 and it only costs $7.
  7. Terminator02

    Terminator02 ヽ( 。 ヮ゚)ノ

    Apr 10, 2010
    United States
    Somewhere near monkat
    Actually, the DSi has been cracked, but there is, as of now, no advantage in getting the dsi other than dsiware games, which there aren't very many of.

    Some good dsiware games:

    I would suggest the DSlite, because they are going to release the Nintendo 3DS late 2010/early 2011.
    Nintendo 3DS info
  8. rockstar99

    rockstar99 Hi

    Dec 3, 2008
    If you dont want GBA:
    DSi XL>>>>>>>>DSi>DS Lite

    If you want GBA
    DSi XL+SCDS2>>>>>>>>DS Lite>DSi
  9. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Feb 4, 2010
    United States
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    And doesn't support SDHC...

    Don't get an R4.
  10. ilidiankid

    ilidiankid Newbie

    Jul 18, 2010
    United States
    Sorry to revive a relatively old thread. I just bought my DSi today after a few years playing my GBA. After reading for a while, I began to wonder if the DS Lite actually has better GBA simulation (I have a collection of my GBA games that I'd like to be able to play as "backups" on my DS) than the DSi? I think because the DS Lite already has the hardware capability to run GBA games, it would naturally be much better than a DSi even with a Super Cart DSTWO. Is this true, and do you guys think it's worth the trouble of returning to Gamestop and negotiate with them to let me exchange for a DS Lite?

    Thank you.
  11. GreatCrippler

    GreatCrippler Greatness Fallen

    Mar 27, 2010
    United States
    Grand Junction, Colorado
    DS Lite Will run GBA games better currently than any DSi. If they ever get the bugs knocked out of the SC2, probably won't matter.
  12. fearofshorts

    fearofshorts GBAtemp Fan

    Jul 12, 2009
    To clarify what GreatCrippler just said, the DS Lite can actually run GBA games using a slot-2 cart (ie: a GBA-flashcart). The DSi (and supercard) will only ever be able to emulate the GBA.

    But unless you have a slot2-flashcart, there is no difference between playing a GBA game on a DSlite and a DSi.
  13. FlashX007

    FlashX007 GBAtemp Maniac

    May 3, 2009
    United States
    xl if you upgrade lite if you downgrade phat and i suck ass phat is too fat and i has grip and comfort problems
  14. GreatCrippler

    GreatCrippler Greatness Fallen

    Mar 27, 2010
    United States
    Grand Junction, Colorado

    ^ This... Because I am lazy. :-P
  15. ilidiankid

    ilidiankid Newbie

    Jul 18, 2010
    United States
    Ah, the thing is I only want to play my GBA games as backups saved on a microSD (or whatever kind of memory storage that the slot 2 cart uses). In that situation is there a *significant difference between GBA games performance in DSi (using slot 2 if I'm correct?) and DS Lite (slot 1)?

    Also, in the case of DS Lite + Slot 2 Cart with GBA backups, is it even called "emulation" or is the DS Lite playing the games as it should be with a cartridge, like "natively"?
    Thanks guys and sorry for my confusing English [​IMG]
  16. foob

    foob GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Dec 26, 2007
    Equally friendly for DS games. Others have covered Game Boy Advance stuff. The only difference you'll notice is that if you buy DSi-specific cartridges for your DSi (or DS Lite) they tend to list on the home screen a game you may not have (since they are trying to fool the unit into thinking that you have a real game loaded). For example, with the Acekard 2i, the image (and words) on your home screen will show Danny Phantom Urban Jungle.

    I have a DSi and the DS Lite.
    Very few differences beyond matte (DSi) versus gloss (DS Lite) and slightly bigger screens (DSi) and slightly better speakers (DSi) and more length (DSi) and less thickness (DSi). The directional pad is the same size between DS Lite and DSi. The shoulder buttons are (IMO) better in the DSi, but there's not much between them (still too square). DS Lite still feels 'stronger' to me, perhaps because of its less length and width and more substantial thickness (may just be a subjective feeling but I trust it more). But I like that the DSi can take you to the home screen quickly with a quick press of the POWER button (without powering off or using cart-specific key combos).

    If you are interested in new features of DSi, the two VGA cameras are OK for a bit of play (but they are really poor) and so is the sound recording and manipulation (sound recordings cannot be saved onto the SD card but images can). Both are great for younger users but pretty tiring after a short while for those who just want to game. Nintendo DSi web browser (free download) and Flipnote Studio (free download) might interest you, but I tried them both and they really do nothing for me (and this coming from a fan of Opera on Windows, the same company who crafted the DSi browser). But then again I'm rarely satisfied with browsers on phones, too. At least you can use WPA encryption for the net stuff (finally!). Regarding DSiWare for DSi units, it's my understanding that anything you buy is locked to the one unit and cannot be transferred over to another unit if/when your unit dies or needs to be sold. This makes buying DSiWare bad value, in my opinion and as far as I'm aware nobody has been able to 'fix' things here.

    DSi XL is the huge version and I saw it in a store on display recently and it's HUGE. A unique item. I'll probably get it when the price goes down after the 3DS is released just from a better comfort and battery life angle!

    Hope that helps.
  17. lilphoenix

    lilphoenix Newbie

    Jul 18, 2010
    United States
    hi, ever since the announcement of 3DS, i've been thinking of getting myself an NDS; and after reading this thread, it seems lite is the best option for the moment.

    however, i'm still confused about these flashcarts business.
    i understand that i need to use a specific flashcart in order to use homebrew application or play backup games.

    i've been reading about flashcarts but i'm still confused, are these flashcarts available on any game store?
    which one is the best to use? seems like r4 and acekard akaio are the popular ones.
    is there anything else i need to know before buying the nds or the flashcarts?

    i don't want to be fooled by the retailers, cuz judging by the price, i'm sure they would push me to by the most expensive ones, but often the less expensive ones are better to use.

    thanks in advance for the help.
  18. Gariscus

    Gariscus Former Team Cyclops Mod

    Jun 5, 2009
    My favourite is the CycloDS(I don't know why XD). But it costs a lot compared to other flashcarts. It has several nice features, fast updates, good build quality.
    The Acekard 2i is a very nice flashcart. It has fast updates, a nice gui and several nice features.
    The Supercard DSTWO looks very promising. It has it's own cpu and ram so it has quite a few features other carts don't have.

    I'd recommend you buy one of these from http://shoptemp.com/ the prices are low and the store is reliable.

    Oh and I think you should get a DS lite. None of the DSi's features are supported by any flashcarts yet.
  19. ZAFDeltaForce

    ZAFDeltaForce Specialist

    Sep 9, 2006
    I don't know too much about the DSi, but I can tell you without a doubt that the Lite is 100% hassle-free. I've never encountered a ROM that failed me in one way or another, and patches to the carts are always released quite fast
  20. gameguy95

    gameguy95 Needs More Furries!

    Jan 27, 2009
    United States
    ds lite because you never need to worry about system updates and you pretty much get the exact same thing because dsi can only play ROMs of regular DS games and not DSi games no matter what cart you get. plus you can get a Cyclods (really awesome flashcart) for DS but no "i" version yet.

    just to let you know, all the DSi carts work on the DS lite and DS Phat too. (SCDS2 FTW!!! [​IMG] )