DS #1628: Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker (USA)

hi can anyone help me with the adventure log not being found? i got an r4ds

 

It depends if you count "the enemy" as the sum of all individuals who are against you, or if you count "the enemies" as the group including each individual.

If the former, the word appears in its singular form but its meaning is plural, thus the verb agrees with that:

"The enemy are greeks", if you understand it as a group of people who share a common characteristic.

If the latter, the noun is plural, it agrees with the verb on plural:

"The enemy is greek", if you understand "enemy" as the "whole opposing force".

The same happens to words like family or enterprise, which can be interpretated as a group of people or an entity on its own.

 

it words it as "The enemy are defeated!" when you defeat multiple enemies in the one battle

 

Wrong game/forum area

 

Awesome, if you're a DQ fan. It's got all the good stuff fans will recognize from pretty much any other DQ game. The sound effects too are the same silly thing fans are used to. I love it. If you haven't played a DQ game before, it might seem hokey. But I don't think DQ games are generally meant to be very serious.

 

Btw, if anyone played the japanese version of this game, and still has the save file, it works with the US version I have the game finished and LOTS of rare monsters on the japanese version, and I thought to give it a try to recover my save file on the US version, and it indeed works

The names of your monsters are a little weird though haha Just re-breed them and change their names.

 

They look completely rubbish. It's got standard 3d environment with 2d cartoonish characters that even have black stroke. Visual consistency -> zero, especially when you add a color pallet that bad (at least it is bad in that photo I haven't played it).

They could have gone for a complete and beautiful 2d overall style. Or a full 3d which isn't really nice on the ds but at least it would be better than that. Or they could have used cell shaded 3d which unless they are really well and carefully done (appleseed movie) and on a system that can properly drive them they look bad anyway (viefull joe comes in mind).

want more? I actually do not really like the gfx in zelda that much either although they are classes higher than this screenshot. I believe they should have sticked with the gb/c/a style that was so cute and nice.

many of those 3d attempts remind me the old days. I feel like i'm 12 years in the past. around '94 that the first 3d accelerator cards were out and you would see games been advertised for their amazing 3d gfx hahahahahah. They looked quite bad back then and they look bad now as well.

With that said some were brilliant games and the graphics worked pretty well, like alone in the dark 1-3. 3 actually had an amazingly good combination of 2d/3d and was a kick ass game overall AND ripped off by resident evil later...

ramza__x's comments could apply to the first one actually..

amazing graphics (hahahahah, right)
bad camera control
ugly enemies (but not as ugly as the main character in-game)

see? we are 13 years in the past again. anyone that has played them knows what i mean anyone that hasn't give the 3rd one a try you'll be quite surprised ..but i'm getting quite off topic now..

 

well Acrocosm...like you said in your long post, you haven't played it.

It's actually rather pretty, characters are cel shaded, like zelda.
I am quite sure that they used the same engine for final fantasy crystal chronicles

 

You're not the only, because I don't WTF you're talkin' about. Almost everything in the game is cel-shaded and it's all 3-D. It's also the DS, so if you're comparing this "rubbish" to anything else on the system, please tell us what is much better than this game. Phantom Hourglass, Viewtiful Joe and FFIII, along with perhaps another small handful of games, round out what are perhaps the best-looking games on the system, but Joker is right up there with those. If you're comparing the graphics in Joker to games of another system, then you're probably in the wrong thread.

In any case, the gameplay is really good, and I'd love to read your thoughts on that...you have played it, right?

 

I smell a graphics whore.

Seriously, focus on the gameplay more and less on the graphics.

By the way, the graphics are fine.

~Nero

 

acrocosm is an idiot.

"It's got standard 3d environment with 2d cartoonish characters"

Actually they are 3d models which are cell shaded.

"Or they could have used cell shaded 3d"

What do you think they are using in this game & also Dragon Quest VIII, whose engine this game is based on.

 

Before you criticize something, try it. Because you just made a huge fool of yourself acrocosm.

 

have you ever played a DS game, or a DQ game before?
the celshaded characters, and normal 3D environment is the DQ style, like how most animes have the background hand painted.
you should really play the game, it's not like you have to spend any money.
The characters have really nice details, animation is nice, one thing that really impressed me is the number of translucent textures and sprites, so the trees/etc blend smoothly into whatever is behind them.
There are a few shortcomings, the sky is very blocky, and the camera is a bit awkward (especially if your L button is broken ) but it's a good game, so play it!

 

Omg this game has the BEST graphics I have ever seen on a DS. It looks quite stunning when you actually play the game - which I really suggest you do, Hit. V. gd game so far

 

The only reason i'd vote this game 80% instead of 95% is the DAMN SLOW moving speed! For walking like 5 metres, the hero needs about 30 steps

 

well no this game doesnt have great graphics, obviously with standards these days lol. But for a DS its EXCELLENT graphics, cant really judge it based on other handhelds/consoles. Woot ps3 has better graphics =/

yeah he does walk so slow! But i dont really mind, still faster than pokemons battle system >.>" lol

 

Can't...stop...playing...

Must...Synthesise...

I tried this out expecting to put it down soon after and write it off as another so-so monster RPG. Boy was I wrong. I haven't put it down since. You can argue all you want about the graphics, but I think they look great for a DS game. What really gets me though is the gameplay. The battle system is exactly what I want in an RPG. You assign each monster a tactic, then you can either just let them fight with the tactic or give them a specific order. Fantastic system.

And unlike other "breeding" RPGs, the synthesis system in this game is much more accessible and fun. I find myself getting wrapped up in a synthesise->level->repeat pattern just to see what cool monsters I can get.

Some criticisms: The battle animations are just "okay". A few of them are well done, but most are just a generic "run across and strike" motion. And the music really could have used an update. I realize there's some nostalgia attached to it, but as someone new to the series, the music is the only thing in the game that seems sub-par.

Bottom line, if you're on the fence about this one, give it a try. It just might be the best game you've played in a while.

 

Yeah, the battle system is really sweet, and the way they streamlined it by allowing it to be somewhat automated (although you can, of course, manually command each monster per melee round) really helps when you're grinding.

I do disagree with you though about the battle animations, as a matter of fact I feel just the opposite. For a DS RPG, I think it looks awesome. You get random views each time a monster attacks, and it breaks up the visual aesthetic, making it feel fresh each time.

The music, yeah, I knew some folks would feel that way about the music and sound effects, but I love the sound, because it's -- as you said -- nostalgic. If they had updated the sound, I doubt the game would have the same quirky appeal to me.

 

hahahah ok, once more I judged screenshot which looks rubbish.

I played the 1st one on the gbc, it gave me a very lonely feeling, didn't like it. 2nd was awesome (amazing gfx too). No, haven't played their big bros in ps or whatever console they were released so I don't know what's their graphics like. I'm into portables only.

fool of myself? should I say I judged by that screenshot again? besides, personal flavor is personal flavor isn't it? do you make a fool of yourself if you say "I don't like olives?"

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irpacynot: you crap, shit whaaaaaat? WTF? you know crap you dont like olives you are an idiot. hahahahahahah read posts, understand what was written, then speak. But nah you seem a bit dump (or too much of a tongue-before-thought, blind consumer, fundonkeyboy) I'll make it simpler for you:

-Comparing the graphics with another system - No, I was comparing (vaguely) similar perspectives
-Viefull Joe.. amont the best looking - In no case. It looked crap. Good game, I enjoyed it but the gfx was bad, the colors were just awful. "But that's the best ds can do" -Then it better do something else..
-Phantom hourglass/FFIII - Yes, yes you are right, dont forget nanostray which beats all of them anytime, but for zelda I'd preffer if they had sticked with the original style (gb/gbc/gba/snes) that I love ..same for metroid T_T
-You have played it right? - Err nope, got to work too unfortunately, can't play games all day '_'
-wrong threat - nah, i know where i am
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"graphics whore"?, hmmm MisterNero i wouldn't say so... unless if you mean I like good graphics and NOT in a cutting edge manner. I still play DMG games on my brick (when I'm not making music with it ) and the reason I preffered ds over psp was because I'd still be able to play some neat 2d games (seems a bit distant the way things are going). I'm a 3d artist among other things but always supported that gameplay is over graphics. To me crap with amazing gfx = easy buck/making fool of misguided consumers/marketing/f*ck you mr corporate

I'd take a prety damn good looking 2d game that the ds is perfectly capable of doing than a "sry, it's the "best" it can do" game.


..In any case I never criticised the game and I'd expect it to be very good but i'm not really into collecting stuff games. The graphics however judging from that screenshot look CRAP, period.

edit: damn too long again >_

 

Did I hit a nerve? In any case, thanks for your reply...I guess. I read your post, and I responded accordingly. That's my "flavor," brother.

Peace

BTW, not certain what constitutes a "fundonkeyboy," but I like it. Sounds like my kinda riff-raff.