DS #1209: Vegas Casino High 5! (USA)

[Rayder]

aight heres the deal, with the patch applied it works and runs on the R4/M3 now the only thing is I am unsure if its untouched once the patch is applied. Graphics and text look like shiet and the bottom half of the screen appears to be cut off go to the slots u see what im talking about. anyone with original able to dload apply patch and confirm its untouched?

Here is the link since it is not a complete rom just the patches there is no reason the link should be removed unless I am incorrect about the rules. Mods do what u need to.

http://rapidshare.com/files/42238733/sq-vch5.zip.html

Hmm....not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it still doesn't work....white screens again.

I tried renaming the ROM to what it says in the bat file (I always just name them what game they are in my flashcarts), unzipping all the zipped files in your download into that same directory so all the included files, plus the ROM, were in the same directory and running the bat. It acted as if it was doing something, a screen briefly popped up and quickly showed some file names (too quickly to read), and it created a file called sq-vch5-nofspack.nds (I assume "nofspack" means "no fucking stupid pack", LOL), which I renamed to Vegas Casino High 5.nds and dropped it in the R4. In the R4 menu, the game came up as "untitiled" when I selected it.

I even tried GBATA to do the ips file......no go. It created a file, but it also white screened.

Here's some more odd stuff....now originally I tried it untrimmed (16MB), but if I just used the batch file, it would trim (R4 trimmer) to 504KB.....I didn't try to run that. If I used GBATA to patch it, it would "trim" to 331MB. Yikes! Obviously didn't run that, LOL.

Is there somewhere special I should have the files? Like on C: drive or in My Documents or something? I just did everything from one folder on one of my storage drives. Do I need some sort of external program installed before this will work?

Just asking...you know, just in case the fault was on my end. I DO appreciate you making the patch available, it's just that it didn't seem to work. I tried it on 3 different DL's of the ROM.

 

[xenon]

A really pointless operation. There are better ways to show off your skills than counterproductive file system mess ups...

 

[opcode32]

double post

 

[opcode32]

i checked and the .bat is indeed included in the release.



just the .bat won't help, because it needs a shitload of other files

@echo off
ndslayout.exe -u sq-vch5.lay sq-vch5.nds sq-vch5-nofspack.nds
uips.exe a sq-vch5-fspack-revert.ips sq-vch5-nofspack.nds
cls
echo all done, go play on your lame supercard;)

Just out of curiosity, I tried making a patch, just to see how much difference there is between SQUiRE's crap and a clean dump. The patch was almost 4MB.

That's how .ips works (aka it's not very good when doing filesize changes) and has nothing to do with the actual amount of changes made. I guess this is why they are doing all this crap in their .bat, so they don't have to use one hugeass .ips file.

 

[Rayder]

OK, I got it to work.....I needed the uips.exe file....hunted it down on the net. That was the missing file in firesokar's zip. He had the uips source file, but not the exe.

The game ran fine after that, I noticed no corruptions at the slots. But yeah, the game is crap. At least I got to check it out.

If anyone actually knows this Squire character, smack him and tell him to quit screwing around with the dumps.

 

[Sir VG]

i checked and the .bat is indeed included in the release.



just the .bat won't help, because it needs a shitload of other files

@echo off
ndslayout.exe -u sq-vch5.lay sq-vch5.nds sq-vch5-nofspack.nds
uips.exe a sq-vch5-fspack-revert.ips sq-vch5-nofspack.nds
cls
echo all done, go play on your lame supercard;)

Just out of curiosity, I tried making a patch, just to see how much difference there is between SQUiRE's crap and a clean dump. The patch was almost 4MB.

That's how .ips works (aka it's not very good when doing filesize changes) and has nothing to do with the actual amount of changes made. I guess this is why they are doing all this crap in their .bat, so they don't have to use one hugeass .ips file.

Have you even BOTHERED looking at it? Their IPS is BIGGER THAN MINE. Now before you say "you said yours was almost 4MB and theirs is only 3MB!" I was looking at mine uncompressed. Their's uncompressed was 6.41MB. And it STILL doesn't do the job properly. It only corrupts the ROM further.

SQUiRE failed miserably, sorry to say.

 

[firesokar]

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Have you even BOTHERED looking at it? Their IPS is BIGGER THAN MINE. Now before you say "you said yours was almost 4MB and theirs is only 3MB!" I was looking at mine uncompressed. Their's uncompressed was 6.41MB. And it STILL doesn't do the job properly. It only corrupts the ROM further.

SQUiRE failed miserably, sorry to say.

[/quote]


failed misserably? they tried something new and offered a patch which indeed does work. atleast they offered you the option. sorry about missing the uips.exe atleast i got the stuff yall needed. the game does work, just meant the graphics were shit look @ touch screen at bottom of the top right slots when u enter them it looks all cut off n crap.

 

[funem]

Have you even BOTHERED looking at it? Their IPS is BIGGER THAN MINE. Now before you say "you said yours was almost 4MB and theirs is only 3MB!" I was looking at mine uncompressed. Their's uncompressed was 6.41MB. And it STILL doesn't do the job properly. It only corrupts the ROM further.

SQUiRE failed miserably, sorry to say.

[/quote]


failed misserably? they tried something new and offered a patch which indeed does work. atleast they offered you the option. sorry about missing the uips.exe atleast i got the stuff yall needed. the game does work, just meant the graphics were shit look @ touch screen at bottom of the top right slots when u enter them it looks all cut off n crap.

[/quote]


This is not the first time they "offered something new" this has done before and there were problems ( Zendoku and Brothers in Arms, Zendoku needed a redump ). At least with a clean ROM you know where you stand, with this type of dump you dont know if you have a non working game or a problem with the unpacker.

Why not just supply the normal rom dump and the option/tools to pack it, rather than it packed already.

 

[bunsy]

There was never any need to proper or redump Zendoku and Brothers in Arms. Not like that stopped SirVG from trying.


VVV edit: Oh right, that was XPA. Pardon.

 

[Sir VG]

I didn't proper Brothers in Arms, BTW.

 

[iNFiNiTY]

The XPA proper was for the original non-working SQUiRE release, but they repacked it and it spread before the proper.

It is only you who is trying to proper these currently.

 

[bobrules]

Can you guys explain what PROPER means and NUKED?

 

[Yugge]

If a releasegroup (those who rip/dump/makes the game avalible online) puts out a release, it is under strict rules of how it should be. Rared, using a specific namestandard etc. And of course it should work, with acceptable quality.

If it breaks some of this rules, it is NUKED, marked as an impropper release not safe/recommended for downloading. If it's an easy fix (namechange, forgot to include patch/crack, yadayada) the releasegroup or another releasegroup releases a PROPER, a fixed version of the same release.

more info is avalible http://whyrar.omfg.se/index_eng.php

 

[Ad_Enuff]

Sir VG has PROPERly re-dumped this game....SQUiRE dump now NUKED!

 

[funem]

Most importantly is that the Squire hacked dump did not work on the R4, was this because of the ROM not working with the R4 or because it was hacked? The answer is because it was Hacked, I can confirm this as the Proper works fine on the R4. This only goes to further get my point across that ROMs should be dumped cleanly and not messed around with. By all means supply a method to "hack" them if you want but post em clean.

Thank you anyway Squire for the dumps working or not, its more than most people do and thank you SirVG for the proper that works.

Can whoever moderates these dumps make a once and for all ruling on how they are to be dumped so everyone can just move on......

 

[Sonicandtails]

I agree, any future SQUiRE releases with non-clean ROMs should be barred. Not right that they nab the numbers first. Nuke it.

 

[firesokar]

A proper was pointless and a waste of space/creds/bw whoever released a proper needs to rethink why they did it. probally was the original source w/ just the patch applied. the original release altho not released complete unelss patched was still a valid release. they compressed it, oh well next you guys will cry about a higher rar level compression. its not like they left you with a completely unusable file u had to click a bat file just once to fix it, quit using web warez to get your files and you wont have to worry.

 

[Sir VG]

A proper was pointless and a waste of space/creds/bw whoever released a proper needs to rethink why they did it. probally was the original source w/ just the patch applied. the original release altho not released complete unelss patched was still a valid release. they compressed it, oh well next you guys will cry about a higher rar level compression. its not like they left you with a completely unusable file u had to click a bat file just once to fix it, quit using web warez to get your files and you wont have to worry.

The proper and SQUiRE's with the patch applied were not the same thing. It was not a CRC32 match (nor a SHA-1 or MD5 match for that matter either). And in actuality, applying the patch further corrupted it.

 

[firesokar]

what is the full name for the proper as im not seeing it anywhere

 

[bunsy]

Dear SirVG,

please, for the love of hilarity, when you spout such nonsense as "further corruption" atleast take the time to fabricate some evidence. For your viewing pleasure please direct your attention to http://rafb.net/p/ZTUGeP48.html

What's happening here is the extraction of the arm9, arm7 and filesystem data from the SirVG proper and the SQUiRE reverted .nds.

Comparisons are made to the arm9 in which the differences are 12 bytes of footer data on the SirVG component. 12 bytes which aren't copied to ds ram nor have any bearing on playability, stability or compatability.

The arm7 is identical.

MD5 checksums are then gathered recursively from the SirVG filesystem and compared to the SQUiRE one with identical results.

Conclusion: The SirVG proper is identical to SQUiRE reverted .nds and as such entirely useless, pointless and a complete waste of time.