Donald Trump thinks there should be rating boards for movies and video games.

[Localhorst86]

Trump should next call for Porn and Playboy to be banned, that way in the future there won't be any risk of Presidents being found to have had affairs with Porn Stars and Playmates. Clearly we need to remove those scourges because why focus on the actual failing?

Having said that, I'd agree with the whole needing more actual action and sex exploitation films. Preferably with lots of over the top satire. If you're going to go big, really go big.

he's not asking for a ban on games and movies, though. He's proposing that there should be a ratings board that will rate games and movies based on their content. What a brilliant man. A very stable genius.

I already have suggestions for some names.

For games, we could call it "Board for Rating Entertainment Software" (Acronymed to 'BRES')
For movies, I suggest "American Association of Motion Picture" (Acronymed to 'AAMP')

This is to not get them confused with the "Entertainment Software Rating Board" (ESRB) or "Motion Picture Association of America" (MPAA) - whoever the fuck knows what their job is...

but there are some like Violence and Sexual content which are pretty vague and could mean so much as a girl in a bathing suit or someone being punched.

I don't think those are too vague. Punching someone is clearly sexual content and a girl lolling seductively in a skin clad bikini is clearly violence.

 

[FAST6191]

Sipping some of the Devil's advocaat for a moment.

The US is rather odd in that while it has a rating system after a fashion, albeit a rather strange one (I highly recommend This Film Is Not Yet Rated, and I assume we are all generally familiar with the massive dissonance between media as to what gets rated what), it is all voluntary and not legally enforced, enforcement of the latter apparently being against a fundamental aspect of the legal code (first amendment and all that). Possibly then reading far too much into his word choice in the video from the ny link he says "are able", the implication then being it could be a call for legal creation/enforcement of some ratings. It would not be the first time that mob has brushed up against said first amendment after all.

I agree it is probably the clueless doing the faux puritanical bit (it is not like they care about the science of it all) and giving what they think is a useful soundbite, still have to ponder though.

 

[Deleted-401606]

Let that sink for just a moment and try to realize that the president of the US doesn't know these things already exist and thinks that he's the first one to ever think of this.

Also, looks like he's trying to shift the blame back to violent movies and video games for the rise in gun violence in the US. I swear it's like we are regressing back to the fucking 80's and 90's over here.

It's the toxic American high school culture to blame. Banning guns will stop absolutely nothing because the Columbine guys literally had bombs. The winner take all system in America produces great highs for the winners,but terrible lows for the losers. I have no other explanation as to why school shootings are so prevalent in American culture.

 

[FAST6191]

It's the toxic American high school culture to blame. Banning guns will stop absolutely nothing because the Columbine guys literally had bombs. The winner take all system in America produces great highs for the winners,but terrible lows for the losers. I have no other explanation as to why school shootings are so prevalent in American culture.

I don't know if I can get there.

So some cunts had bombs, does not seem to be a common theme among the rather large dataset (one obtained over a fairly large period, geographically split, age split and more besides) we have to look at. Looking at the ones used in the event mentioned ( https://www.columbine-guide.com/columbine-bombs ) then beyond crude and ultimately ineffective seems to be the order of the day. Of the pipe bombs then the logic used by one of the cunts in question http://web.textfiles.com/destruction/eharristext.txt

It is equally not the only high pressure pass or rot school system in the world (look at Japan, South Korea, parts of south America like Brazil).

I am equally without many answers here but your explanations seem rather shaky from where I sit.

 

[Deleted-401606]

I don't know if I can get there.

So some cunts had bombs, does not seem to be a common theme among the rather large dataset (one obtained over a fairly large period, geographically split, age split and more besides) we have to look at. Looking at the ones used in the event mentioned ( https://www.columbine-guide.com/columbine-bombs ) then beyond crude and ultimately ineffective seems to be the order of the day. Of the pipe bombs then the logic used by one of the cunts in question http://web.textfiles.com/destruction/eharristext.txt

It is equally not the only high pressure pass or rot school system in the world (look at Japan, South Korea, parts of south America like Brazil).

I am equally without many answers here but your explanations seem rather shaky from where I sit.

Because you are a liberal.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

It's the toxic American high school culture to blame. Banning guns will stop absolutely nothing because the Columbine guys literally had bombs. The winner take all system in America produces great highs for the winners,but terrible lows for the losers. I have no other explanation as to why school shootings are so prevalent in American culture.

Just a nitpick, the bombs in Columbine didn't work. That's why they shot the place up.

Also, the bombs were homemade. Most shooters aren't capable of building bombs. Some are, sure, but the vast majority are not.

Also, without going into the issues with your "high and low" theory, even if it were true the people who become shooters need guns to shoot people, and most of them use guns that are semi-automatic or automatic. Maybe banning weapons like those and keeping regular guns like handguns would decrease the amount of shootings.

 

[tech3475]

Has he blamed the news yet? By which I mean all news sources which report on these school shootings.

It's been said years ago that the reporting may be encouraging these types of shootings.



Just realised this is nearly 10 years old now.

 

[FAST6191]

Because you are a liberal.

Am I? News to me.

Also how might that address the things I brought up in response to you?

 

[Localhorst86]

Am I? News to me.

Also how might that address the things I brought up in response to you?

Apparently, liberal ideas are invalid by default.

 

[MadonnaProject]

A lot of trump bashing as usual but I think america needs trump.

Anyways on topic this is a bit of biased news. He did not say there needed to be a rating system, he says there needs to be a clear rating system which let's parents etc know what the content of the game is. At the moment "teen" could mean shooting aliens or shooting hookers.

 

[Xzi]

I'm glad somebody else posted this so I didn't have to. This definitely competes for dumbest thing Trump has ever said, and that's a high bar.

 

[tech3475]

Anyways on topic this is a bit of biased news. He did not say there needed to be a rating system, he says there needs to be a clear rating system which let's parents etc know what the content of the game is. At the moment "teen" could mean shooting aliens or shooting hookers.

Don't ERSB ratings normally have next to them the contents e.g. blood, violence, etc?

 

[Xzi]

Don't ERSB ratings normally have next to them the contents e.g. blood, violence, etc?

Yes. There's no excusing/explaining this one away, it was just an absolutely stunning moment of idiocy. Trump spends all his time playing golf or watching Faux News, so he was completely oblivious to the fact that these ratings systems already exist.

 

[sarkwalvein]

I'd love for just a no-frills Hollywood backed action movie with limbs being blown off, death all around, stuff that was common in the 80s, in movies like Commando and the Rambo sequels. So entertaining.

Kind of off topic, but I agree so much with this. I don't mean those movies are high class art or whatever, nope, those are also popcorn flicks, but of the good kind. I am so bored already of safe cookie cutter superhero movies TBH.

 

[VartioArtel]

Don't ERSB ratings normally have next to them the contents e.g. blood, violence, etc?

They don't specify the differences. It could be bleeding from a rock falling on them, or bleeding from being slashed.

Could be Violence of the boxing nature, or violence of the war nature.

I am NOT defending trump, but there's a fairly wide gulf between 'casual' violence for example and 'extreme' violence, like maiming someone.

While I do not agree with Trump's inane stupidity, I think as gamers nobody can deny that the Game rating board is an utter bunch of malarky, let's not forget that most of the game companies PAY their way for their ratings unless it's just completely undeniably an M game, for example. They also pay to manipulate this and that decision related to the board.

 

[Xzi]

Kind of off topic, but I agree so much with this. I don't mean those movies are high class art or whatever, nope, those are also popcorn flicks, but of the good kind. I am so bored already of safe cookie cutter superhero movies TBH.

Well you're basically looking for The Expendables movies, and three of those was probably good enough.

They don't specify the differences. It could be bleeding from a rock falling on them, or bleeding from being slashed.

Could be Violence of the boxing nature, or violence of the war nature.

I am NOT defending trump, but there's a fairly wide gulf between 'casual' violence for example and 'extreme' violence, like maiming someone.

They're not going to put three paragraphs of text on cartridge/disc covers to specify everything that happens in the game. 'T' vs 'M' already distinguishes the intensity of violence.

This is just a line Trump threw out to distract from the gun issue anyway, taking this discussion seriously is ridiculous. The current ratings systems are sufficient, and countries with zero gun deaths per year play the same video games we do.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Well you're basically looking for The Expendables movies, and three of those was probably good enough.

Well, yeah, could be. But actually I was thinking of something that keeps trying new thing in those genres. Like Hardcore Henry tried, or so. It's like they have forgotten to try new things in that direction (or perhaps, money is not being invested in that direction so they can't try new things).

 

[tech3475]

They don't specify the differences. It could be bleeding from a rock falling on them, or bleeding from being slashed.

Could be Violence of the boxing nature, or violence of the war nature.

I am NOT defending trump, but there's a fairly wide gulf between 'casual' violence for example and 'extreme' violence, like maiming someone.

While I do not agree with Trump's inane stupidity, I think as gamers nobody can deny that the Game rating board is an utter bunch of malarky, let's not forget that most of the game companies PAY their way for their ratings unless it's just completely undeniably an M game, for example. They also pay to manipulate this and that decision related to the board.

Please post what you think the rating system should look like.

 

[sarkwalvein]

I find amusing the force field that the NRA has erected around firearms. It works wonders, their shields can deflect the controversy from firearms to any other topic as required, shots being shot end up hitting videogames, movies, "banal" teenager use of smartphones, you name it. It's like a magician in action, I want that force field technology.

 

[Xzi]

I find amusing the force field that the NRA has erected around firearms. It works wonders, their shields can deflect the controversy from firearms to any other topic as required, shots being shot end up hitting videogames, movies, "banal" teenager use of smartphones, you name it. It's like a magician in action, I want that force field technology.

It's easy, you just need to become the most powerful gun lobby on Earth by profiting from Americans killing Americans.