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aren't you the guy who ran away from my 5 peer reviewed studies conducted way before anyone ever uttered the word DEI

Haven't read them yet. Had shingles for the last couple weeks, very unpleasant situation. Valtrex sucks but it gets the job done, so I'm kinda back in the real world again.

I will check them out. Maybe they even say a little more than the usual "linked to ..." or "suggests that ..." that most of the studies that usually get touted claim.
 

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Not every Trump voter is a closeted Klansman.
It does not matter at all. The party having a klansman problem and Trump's pet eating rhetoric was not a deal breaker therefore I will lump them in because they enabled this. Like full stop, if you voted for someone that said "They're eating the cats and dogs" you are not a good human being. Best case scenario, they didn't hear this but that just makes them incredibly ignorant.

Your logic is the same fallacious judgements used by hardline conservatives to designate every liberal as a Communist. It's literally the same fallacy, just inverted.
Its not because we're able to point out numerous direct examples, and they cannot when they throw the word communist or socialist around.
 

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I will check them out. Maybe they even say a little more than the usual "linked to ..." or "suggests that ..." that most of the studies that usually get touted claim.
I mean, they're not pilot studies, but they have limitations, as do all studies.

You do not get to complain about small study sizes - there's only so many trans people, "epidemic" at all - so study sizes will always be limited. Even the huge Swedish cohort (10.1371/journal.pone.0016885) that likes to get mis-cited as for suicide rate (never measured that with controls) and and criminal behavior (corrected to not relevant in the second half of the 30 year study) had like half their participants drop out.

You equally don't get to complain about the lack of controls, because denying people healthcare to prove a point is unethical. Because HRT isn't actually experimental, it's current best practice. Imagine doing a study attempting to disprove the efficacy of heart medication, so you take half the group off their medication to see if they die faster. That's what the many people before you that I argued with asked for.
 

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Best case scenario, they didn't hear this but that just makes them incredibly ignorant.
Or they did hear but didn't care. Or they thought it was funny. Different people have different values, and Trump's no stranger to odd/misleading statements. If they supported him before, I doubt the cats and dogs comment would be a dealbreaker.
It does not matter at all. The party having a klansman problem and Trump's pet eating rhetoric was not a deal breaker therefore I will lump them in because they enabled this. Like full stop, if you voted for someone that said "They're eating the cats and dogs" you are not a good human being.
Fine; you're entitled to your own opinion. All I'm saying is that it's not nearly as cut-and-dry when the context is taken out of a vacuum. And lumping people in simply because you don't like the top dogs or the people's actions seems a petty judgement.
Its not because we're able to point out numerous direct examples, and they cannot when they throw the word communist or socialist around.
???
Numerous direct examples of progressive American groups advocating for, promoting, spreading the word about, etc. communism/socialism exist and are not difficult to find. Direct examples exist in plenty on both sides.
 

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More of an issue of insane liberals calling literally everything racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, etc etc etc

We've had to put up with your kinds cringe for a decade plus now. EVERYBODY is tired of it.
My previous point stands with a response like this.

If you don't think what you are saying is bigoted or racist, that's a you problem and doesn't make what you're saying any less bigoted or racist.

Guess you just need to suck it up and accept that you'll get lumped in with the KKK and etc. Too fucking bad if you're "tired" of it. Stop acting like a Nazi then.
 
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More of an issue of insane liberals calling literally everything racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, etc etc etc

We've had to put up with your kinds cringe for a decade plus now. EVERYBODY is tired of it.
Speak for yourself!
I take a big distance from your point of view here.
There is racist jokes and they're not nice but i can live with it. then there is deportation and WWII greatings of the german oppressors which go far beyond that point to even call it racist!
There's no word to describe how much hate comes from it...
Really talking about it like: I didn't mean it like that... What he did it twice, not in any other way explainable the combination of two movement of the SS greating.
I can live with GTA making yokes, i can deal with people with trust issues... But that's beyond repairable damage in image.
 

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My mistake. It was thinking of the parable of the lost sheep, where the shepherd with 100 sheep would leave 99 in search of the lost one that had strayed from the path. Though that scripture you posted does have some relevance.
Ah, gotcha. We are looking at Matthew 18:10-14 and Luke 15:1-7. Would you mind explaining the relevance of these texts to what you were discussing? I'm also curious as to how John 10:1-18 would have relevance, too.
 

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then there is deportation

Deportation is what happens when the law is followed. Actually illegal entries don't happen so much at all when the government follows its own laws, but Biden pissed on that for years so you can thank him for this problem. And there were LOTS of deportations happening every day when Obama was President and I'll bet you weren't complaining about it then.
 

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As a European I'm deeply concerned about the things I saw on Monday. I'm so upset that I've even created the avatar that I'm using right now ... and I've never ever used any avatar on the temp, yet. Say NO to Nazis, fascism and especially to Elon Musk. Everyone who is still supporting this guy after what we all witnessed on Monday should be treated the same way the Nazis have been treated in the Nuremberg Trials ... no exception. These are the people that enable history to repeat.
 

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Retarded is not a slur, it would retarded if it was.
You know, I'm kinda fed up trying to be the nice guy when you people just victimise yourselves and say that others will genocide you for simply existing. That's just fearmongering, no one cares what you do with your lives if you're not forcing it on others, but that's impossible for you guys. You feel attacked but don't realise it's because the way you act. People have no problem with others being gay or trans but when that is your only trait, that you have to rub it in everyone's elses face and they criticise you feel attacked. That "hurr durr everyone that doesn't agree with me is a nazi and needs to die" is retarded beyond belief, not every democrat is the same, not every republican is the same, you can't just group them and criticize them.

Based!
 
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you are a nazi and you need to die (sorry i don't say hurr durr)

can i get my ban now, i'm tired
No, I don't want to ban people just because of opinions or other things. Maybe I can't get my ideas through but banning is not a solution, attacking is also not a solution.

If you think I'm a nazi then fine, I'm also tired of this, but my opinion is that calling someone a nazi is insensitive to all of those that died during Hitler's rule in germany. Some people were deported, like my grandpas father, who was deported for 5 years in siberia. So for me it kinda makes me mad when people accuse others as nazis just because they have a different opinion or worldview. Sometimes I get mad when someone gets called a racist because he hates immigrants. That's not racism, that's xenophobia and people should learn about it.
No one is trying to get you, people are just tired I guess.

Anyway, back on track: Donald trump said that spain is in BRICKS, he was like: Spain, it's in BRICKS yeah? and the reporter was like : huh?
So it will be kinda interesting to see how many memes this man will generate
 

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No, I don't want to ban people just because of opinions or other things. Maybe I can't get my ideas through but banning is not a solution, attacking is also not a solution.

If you think I'm a nazi then fine, I'm also tired of this, but my opinion is that calling someone a nazi is insensitive to all of those that died during Hitler's rule in germany. Some people were deported, like my grandpas father, who was deported for 5 years in siberia. So for me it kinda makes me mad when people accuse others as nazis just because they have a different opinion or worldview. Sometimes I get mad when someone gets called a racist because he hates immigrants. That's not racism, that's xenophobia and people should learn about it.
No one is trying to get you, people are just tired I guess.

Anyway, back on track: Donald trump said that spain is in BRICKS, he was like: Spain, it's in BRICKS yeah? and the reporter was like : huh?
So it will be kinda interesting to see how many memes this man will generate
i wasn't talking to you and the joke (that nobody actually says that) went kinda past you. i asked for my account to be deleted because i don't want to be here and being here is damaging my base belief that everyone is trying to do their best.

i sincerely hope you get some perspective. imagine carrying a sign that says "i am a rapist and a pedophile" with you every day. that's what trump adjacent media like fox have been drilling into people's heads for the past few years.
 

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Anyway, back on track: Donald trump said that spain is in BRICKS, he was like: Spain, it's in BRICKS yeah? and the reporter was like : huh?
So it will be kinda interesting to see how many memes this man will generate
Not the first time he has said something inaccurate. I just can't wait to see the upcoming shitstorm. 🤣

The world (especially America) isn't ready for what America have unleashed. The rich know, but not the middle-class and poor.
 
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i wasn't talking to you and the joke (that nobody actually says that) went kinda past you. i asked for my account to be deleted because i don't want to be here and being here is damaging my base belief that everyone is trying to do their best.
I shouldn't be giving you the attention you clearly crave, but...You know, when you keep blurting out your game plan like that, it ultimately tells the mods to not delete your account as you ask, and instead just remove your posts as they come up. At this point, I really do think you're just wanting attention.

But if you truly do want to leave, have you ever considered...I don't know...just turning off notifications and just leaving? You're not being forced to stay here by anyone except yourself. You can even delete your own account if you want to. There's an option for that. Use it if you really don't want your account anymore.
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This thread has entered the realm of dejection throwing back and forth. Brace for impact. Or don't, and just sip coffee while avoiding the projectiles, danmaku-style.

People love to complain again and again without actually doing something impactful towards what they're complaining about, after all, and while protests erupted left and right, they're powerless in the face of the country's majority voting for what protesters deem wrong, so I guess the only choice now is to wait for the result of Trump's first moves. And while this thread's usual dramaturges will complain, I doubt it'll be as deathly and as negative as expected.

Meanwhile, I'll keep sipping my coffee while watching another third-world country burn.
As far as politics, that's basically what I do every day: just kick back, and watch the left and right scream at each other while simultaneously accomplishing absolutely nothing, all while their respective leaders screw them and everyone else over time and again.
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False equivalency and weird deflection. Maybe reevaluate your values if being lumped together bothers you because you will continue to be.
That said, I do have to agree here. The "[Someone hated by history] liked [random thing], therefore every [same random thing] owner is like [same someone hated by history]" Mad Libs is a little weak to be using as a comeback, and can actually backfire.
 
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'not every republican is the same' is an argument i have heard over and over in the same vein as 'not every cop is bad there are good cops'
that man trump went in front of a group of christians and urged them to vote on the basis that "next time you won't need to vote"
it really doesn't matter to me if you support the guy because his hair makes you laugh, you have reinforced a party that continually runs on social oppression and economic ruin

for years you lot ran on segregation, anti-gay, anti-muslim, anti-arab, anti-trans, anti-sex work, anti-woman... you act like the republican party just fell out of the sky in 2023 as one fella going "i'm just asking questions"
you have access to google, you could have researched any of the myriad topics
you could have looked in the sources on wikipedia to see what passes the rigorous test of source debate if you were unsure of where to go
but you either didn't, and are a useful idiot, or you did, and you dismissed what you saw

i have to believe you're bigots because the alternative is that you're too stupid to verify what comes out of your mouth and too wilfully ignorant to not notice all the horrible rhetoric and policy goals
and even if that's the case, you are still reinforcing a system of hatred, so no
'not all republicans' doesn't move me, because all republicans voted for or supported trump
the result is the same no matter what you felt when you pulled the lever
 

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the alternative is that you're too stupid to verify what comes out of your mouth and too wilfully ignorant to not notice all the horrible rhetoric and policy goals
The conclusion I've come to, even though it's difficult for me to admit, is that this passive acceptance represents an uncomfortably large number of Americans--especially in younger generations.
 
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This is actually one of the greates signs of president D. Trump. Good news for everyone.
I'm looking forward for more signs like this.


also sane comment about unity in general that i feel also related
 
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