Donald Trump impeachment investigation over Ukranian phone call...

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  1. RandomUser

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    Freddy takes his gloves off? Would it be more effective to leave them on? I mean it has knives protruding out of the fingers of said glove. You could do more damage with them on :P.
    Okay I'll see myself out now for being off topic.
     
  2. Xzi

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    Huh? There might be some local elections next month, in my state it's literally just a few ballot issues. Federal government proceedings will not be affected by that.

    In other news, a fourth Giuliani associate has been arrested in connection to the campaign finance case mounting against him. News moves fast these days, I didn't even realize there had been a third.
     
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  3. Ev1l0rd

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    This isn't actually required. It's been historically done because it indicates bipartisanship for the goal of an impeachment, but the constitution and law doesn't ever state it's needed. It's a formality that's been skipped this time.

    The reason for this is twofold. First, the bipartisan way has been tried. The result? The Mueller investigation. It's often overlooked that Mueller is a registered Republican (you'd almost forget given how heavily he got smeared by the Republicans). The outcome: A response so doctored by the Republican party that a large portion of the general public thinks it is a lie.

    Second, the Senate would never agree to start procedures, not enough Republicans have lost support in the orange shrimp yet (that is, if Moscow Mitch even agrees to hold a vote on it, instead of just holding it up by doing nothing.)
     
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  4. billapong

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    No not yet. The Democrats got all riled up in the last two weeks and claimed they were going to vote for impeachment in Congress, but then yesterday the main lady who would take up the vote decided not to pursue the vote anymore. So without a vote in Congress there is no impeachment going on (even if the Congress did vote to impeach then the Senate would have to also vote and that is really unlikely to happen). Before the Senate can vote though, the house has to and they just cancelled their plans to do so. So it's still "throwing words around" (like you stated).

    It's like beating a video game. You can talk about doing it as much as you want, but until you've actually completed the game you haven't actually done jack shit. I'm actually looking forward to the Democrats growing some balls and backing up their words with action so I can see them lose again when it moves into the Senate's arena. They are such poor losers that watching them swallow in their own feces is very self satisfying.

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    Unlike the majority of Congress that realized their collusion hoax didn't work and are now trying to avoid the issue or have decided it's settled I see you're still holding onto it. I suppose you're the type that still refuses to admit Trump is the actual President too? Well, I got news. There was no collusion and you fucking lost the election if you voted for that ugly crooked bitch who ran against Trump.
     
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  6. billapong

    billapong GBAtemp Regular

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    It's no different then Google. The Government sinks their hooks into anything that would give them power and control over other people. It really boils down to trying to be God. The fucked up thing is that stupid people welcome this shit with open arms. "Yeah, we wan't Socialism! We want you to fucking control us! We want to have no freedom! We want to be raped and murdered! We are yours! Take us almighty Liberals. We need you and can't think for ourselves!"
     
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  7. Ev1l0rd

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    Oh boy.

    Nice misrepresenting btw. "We're not holding a vote yet" is what Pelosi said. Not that she's saying there won't be a vote (which again, it's irrelevant, you can investigate without there being a vote for it, since the Congress already has a right to subpoena).

    So no, the investigations are hardly canceled by the Democrats, they're continuing as harsh as they have been.

    Also I'm not American (but I guess it's hard to see that flag below my name isn't it?), I'm just interested in US politics for a variety of reasons[1].

    [1]: US politics tend to be trendsetters for the western world, like it or not. Basically if your country elects a president who can't properly disavow neonazis, it means parties that curtail to neonazis are gonna do better than they otherwise would. This essentially means that every European person has some sort of stake in American politics, even if they can't directly influence it by voting, and as a result means that staying up to date with the situation and stopping cranks, even if they're foreign, from peddling their shit is kinda like really important, since if one doesn't, one could end up with the distilled version of your more on-the-nose bigots.
     
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    ... And the discussion is over : both Mulvany and Sonderland have admitted Trump ordered the money to be withheld until Ukrain held an investigation into Biden

     
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  9. Xzi

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    I couldn't believe he just blurted this shit out. Several journalists gave him a chance for an out with their questions and he doubled and tripled down. I thought maybe this was a strategy he had discussed with Trump beforehand, an attempt to normalize this behavior, but nope, only a few hours later he tried to retract these statements. Makes it clear the degree to which the environment inside the White House must be a chaotic dumpster fire at all hours.
     
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  10. Taleweaver
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    Yeah...speaking of which: Rick Perry is resigning. I wonder why? :creep:

    Trump makes this even more hilarious, btw: "But it was time, three years is a long time, and he'll be leaving towards the end of the year.". So if Trump decides not to pursue a second term...it's not because of his criminal past caught up with him, but because eight years was just too long. :tpi:
     
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  11. billapong

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    It's nice to wake up and see that the Trump hating threads are still going on at full force, but the anti-Liberal ones are all being closed. Just take a gander at the last 20 or so forum threads and compare how many posts that were anti-Liberal have been closed compared to how many posts that are anti-Trump that are still open. Good to know where the priorities of this forum lies.
     
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  12. Ericthegreat

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    It will all come down to if he really withheld money from Ukraine specifically to investigate Biden, and if they can prove it, if not, I don't think they will be able to impeach him.

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    Ouch man, kinda hurts to call him a great president, you feel that the children in the detainment centers should be there?
     
  13. Foxi4

    Foxi4 On the hunt...

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    Whose fault is that? Donald Trump didn't illegally smuggle them across the border, their parents did. They have to be held somewhere while their parents, who knowingly broke the law of the land, are being prosecuted. Under no circumstances should they be treated as a "get out of jail free card", the moment you give people an inch, they'll take a mile. It's their parents, or other guardians, who put them through the hell of illegally crossing the border, across dangerous terrain and at the mercy of the cartels, Trump had nothing to do with that. On our end all we can do is ensure that their stay is as humane and comfortable as possible, but that costs money, and certain political parties outright refuse to adequately fund border security, so you should probably complain to them if you want to see real change.
     
  14. Ericthegreat

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    I think we should just have a better set up with the Mexican government to perform background checks on the people coming in, as for the kids, they need something closer to normal lives.
     
  15. Foxi4

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    How do you intend to perform a background check on people with no documents who hop a fence in the middle of the night? You're also under the false impression that the Mexican government would be keen to cooperate in this endeavour when in reality it can only gain from people's migration into the U.S. It's a complicated issue that you can only solve by throwing money at it - shouting "Orang Man Bad" isn't going to fix it.
     
  16. morvoran

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    Drinking leftist tears...Yummy!
    . Not only what @Foxi4 said, but also around 30%of the "families" coming across the border are not even related meaning the children are victims of human trafficking. So @Ericthegreat, are you okay with child trafficking? Is it okay to you for us to just release children with the people not related to them into our country so they can be used repeatedly to be used as "free passes" for criminals? Hmm, I wonder.:unsure:

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    there's three reasons why Rick is leaving. 1. He wasn't good at the job. 2. He realized that his skills may be better used in the private sector. 3. .... Um, ....I forgot what the third reason was..... Ooops.
     
  17. RationalityIsLost101

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    1. I agree he wasn't good at his job. 2. Private sector is more profitable with less oversight, I guess his 'skills' can be used there. 3. The one you forgot is that his boss tried to implicate him in the mess that Ukraine scandal created and he is currently facing a subpoena from congress.

    I know that last one kinda was hard to remember so I thought I'd chime in to help out!

    "Not a lot of people know this but, I didn't even want to make the call. The only reason I made the call was because Rick asked me to. Something about an LNG [liquefied natural gas] plant,"

    OFFTOPIC:
    How about that Mick Mulvaney briefing from yesterday! Emoluments Clause mean much? I've been thinking about opening another thread on it altogether as man I'd love to see a conservative viewpoint that traditionally is very concerned with it. Maybe tonight I can get something put together. If anyone rents out condos or timeshares here then they will understand some points I'll have to bring up even when Mick kept repeating at-cost / no profit. Love that the four places on the shortlist of 12 they narrowed down to were Hawaii, Utah, Utah again, and Trump's Florida property. I won't overrun this thread with any more discussion about it though.

    I must need to take a trip out to Utah, who knew there were so many wonderful places that out of the entire nation they have two of the top four!
     
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  18. seany1990

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    It's honestly disgusting how many people say mean things about Trump. I can't leave my house knowing that the person next to me in the store or on the street doesn't worship Trump like I do. I tuned in to MSNBC the other day and can you believe they implied that Trump was a hypocrite on corruption? I was so angry I went to /r/the_donald with the rest of us angry internet virgins and made a Hillary meme XD

    Them libs got so owned LMAO. I bet when they are out with their girlfriends, they will think of my funny Hillary meme and get so mad :D
     
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    They totally got mad triggered. Let's also get our expensive Chinese-made red hats and wear them to the local coffee shop like tools, that'll show 'em!
     
  20. Foxi4

    Foxi4 On the hunt...

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    Original MAGA hats are made in America, in Los Angeles, California, by Cali-Fame. 80% of their employees are Latino, by the way.

    images (8).
     
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