Donald Trump impeachment investigation over Ukranian phone call...

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  1. Taleweaver
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    @Hanafuda that's fair. It's pretty technical, after all. :-)

    @everyone else : Trump is further digging himself in a trench. Sonderland was asked to testify, but he's forbidden by the government. Not really surprising, although democrats warned that this would be seen as obstruction of justice. Because that's exactly what it is (and yes, I would have said the same if Bill Clinton tried that shit twenty years ago). Hindering an investigation is suspicious... Hindering an impeachment procedure is worse.

    It can also be me, but it seems like Trump is on a pretty bad streak in other departments as well. His move to one widely remove all troops from Syria doesn't bode well with Republicans and a federal judge ordered him to release his tax returns. Even his favorite fiction show (fox News) is dropping his support. But at least his popularity hasn't changed since... Oh, wait. The percentage of people wanting him impeached still rises. My bad...
     
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    That's the thing that confuses me. How does the percentage that wants him impeached rise without his approval lowering?
     
  3. monkeyman4412

    monkeyman4412 Gbatemp's moronic trash

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    Darn, I can't come up with something edgy
    Unless you fudge the numbers so they don't lower while the impeachment levels rise... dumb conclusion, but hey control of information.
     
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    Less indecisive people?
     
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    Ev1l0rd (⌐◥▶◀◤) Developer - noirscape

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    Ah yeah fair enough I suppose.

    So basically Trump has got yuuge approval ratings /s
     
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    monkeyman4412 Gbatemp's moronic trash

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    Darn, I can't come up with something edgy
    Pretty much, hey paints a story that trump is "doing well" when in all reality any rational person would laugh their ass off.
     
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  7. KingVamp

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    Apparently even Fox's polls have the majority believing that he should be impeached and removed from office. (51%)
     
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    Compared to only 40% who say he shouldn't be, and 4% who say he should be impeached but not removed. Definitely a shocker when delivered by a Fox News poll, and this isn't even accounting yet for the reaction toward Trump abandoning our Kurdish allies to the slaughter in Turkey/Syria. That seems to be a point of contention for government Republicans far more than the Ukrainian extortion scandal is.
     
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    Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman caught trying to flee the country.
     
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    Only the act of innocent people. Witch Hunt!
     
  11. KingVamp

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    Ukraine talking points sent to democrats again. Link
     
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    Hmm
    """"accidentally""""
    ?
     
  13. Taleweaver
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    From the article:

    we are concerned that Schiff is putting her a precarious position by having her testify in secret without State Department lawyers be present


    This is literally the opposite as Trump gave as a reason earlier : he said that anything Yovanovich said would be immediately leaked to the internet. So to the government, her testification is both to public and too secluded? :unsure:
     
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    My guess is that someone in the Trump administration doesn't want to publicly denounce Trump but agrees with the impeachment proceedings going through properly.

    One mistake happens, two mistakes is a pattern.
     
  15. KingVamp

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    Is this real life? :rofl2: Link
     
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    Ahaha wtf. Whatever simulation we're in, it's a comedy.
     
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    Looks like the Fox poll was bogus. The sample included 48% Democrats. Actual representation of Democrats in the population is 31%. The adjusted version is 44.9 for and 44.4 against, which gets you into margin of error, might as well say even split. Just like the last few elections. Which means everyone's sticking to party/leanings regardless of the sludge printed about either side. The ball has not been moved after all.

    https://nypost.com/2019/10/12/fox-n...rch-misrepresented-impeachment-poll-analysis/

    Now the question is, was the pollster incompetent in over-representing Democrats in the sample, or knowingly pushing fake news?
     
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    idk why anyone is listening to any poll after 2016 even if they say what you agree with
     
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    Was 2016 the year they retired polls? No more polls ever again. Go home girls, you're out of jobs.
     
  20. Taleweaver
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    Interesting questions. Here are some more :

    Since fox published these polls, won't that make them the ones pushing fake news and /or being incompetent?
    Since these polls are skewed, won't that make other polls (who put impeachment at around 58% favorable) more likely?

    EDIT: but okay... Playing devil's advocate aside, I gotta agree with you that if the polls are too biased to one side, they're not valid enough to be representative. I mean... It would be unfair to deny you that opinion since I ignored fox polls for years for being too conservative based . :huh:
     
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