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Donald Trump announces he has COVID-19

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well he may die with out getting shot by a bullet? (i know that was harsh but i had to say it has a joke)
 

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The internet loves to cry out for blood when it comes to someone they don’t like. But regardless of anything Trump has done, no one should wish a man and his wife die tragically to this virus.

But, honestly, Trump really did nothing to avoid getting COVID. All his mask hate earned him this, from his own incompetence. Given how he didn’t wear masks and was blasé about the existence of the virus, well, I doubt he’s actually lying. BoJo getting COVID and recovering didn’t really change much, did it? In terms of anti-maskers.

I guess we’ll see where the soap opera level dramatics of 2020’s plot line takes us.
 

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No one should wish anyone else death.

But regardless of anything Trump has done, no one should wish a man and his wife die tragically to this virus.

I haven't seen anyone say anything of the sort. At least not here. But I'm 100% positive there are posts of the sort flooding other places. I do agree though, in that despite how much I can NOT stand the guy, I do not wish death upon him.
 

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The internet loves to cry out for blood when it comes to someone they don’t like. But regardless of anything Trump has done, no one should wish a man and his wife die tragically to this virus.

But, honestly, Trump really did nothing to avoid getting COVID. All his mask hate earned him this, from his own incompetence. Given how he didn’t wear masks and was blasé about the existence of the virus, well, I doubt he’s actually lying. BoJo getting COVID and recovering didn’t really change much, did it? In terms of anti-maskers.

I guess we’ll see where the soap opera level dramatics of 2020’s plot line takes us.
SOMEHOW i can't agree with you: American simply consider anyone who's not Allied with USA as enemies, thus Trump ordered assassination of Iranian general and always was Trump, ordered to kidnap HUAWEI's founder's daughter as Hostage to negotiate 5G deal.
And if he vowed the general public to wear masks back at feb 2020, nearly 95% of people who died cauz corona would be still alive.

Trust me, who gave USA the right to bomb other people's land and their people? GOD??? If he exists, he would puked.
Trump is nothing but greedy power hunger and would do anything to bring advantage to his side.

With all shits The couple did, dying to CORONA would be the most mercifull ending they could ever get.
 
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I've got to be honest : I'm more sorry for Melania and Hope Hicks (his assistent who also tested positive) than for Donald himself. For him, I just wish he gets sick enough to take the virus serious... But not more than that.
Who's to say Trump will? He's got three risk factors: he's elderly, he's obese, and he's low income.
Nice one.
Oh, and as an encore: He's also a person of color. :tpi:
 
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And if he vowed the general public to wear masks back at feb 2020, nearly 95% of people who died cauz corona would be still alive.


Speculation.

And you're going back to February?? Isn't that when Pelosi and Deblasio were still telling people to go on with life as-normal, and Democrats were saying that Trump was racist and xenophobic for imposing his overreaction travel ban?

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/
https://ny.eater.com/2020/3/11/21175497/coronavirus-nyc-restaurants-safe-dine-out

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02...obic-travel-ban-punishes-americans-above-all/
https://dc.medill.northwestern.edu/...hobic-and-xenophobic-civil-rights-groups-say/
https://nypost.com/2020/05/19/biden-trumps-coronavirus-response-is-nakedly-xenophobic/


And when Fauci was still advising against wearing masks.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7


But you now say the President should have DICTATED a nationwide mask mandate back in February. And that this would have saved 95% of the people. Uh-huh. Even if the President had done that and the result was as you suggest, Democrats would now be saying the low number of deaths was just proof that it was all over nothing and an overreaction. Never let a crisis go to waste.
 

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Speculation.

And you're going back to February?? Isn't that when Pelosi and Deblasio were still telling people to go on with life as-normal, and Democrats were saying that Trump was racist and xenophobic for imposing his overreaction travel ban?

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/
https://ny.eater.com/2020/3/11/21175497/coronavirus-nyc-restaurants-safe-dine-out

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02...obic-travel-ban-punishes-americans-above-all/
https://dc.medill.northwestern.edu/...hobic-and-xenophobic-civil-rights-groups-say/
https://nypost.com/2020/05/19/biden-trumps-coronavirus-response-is-nakedly-xenophobic/


And when Fauci was still advising against wearing masks.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7


But you now say the President should have DICTATED a nationwide mask mandate back in February. And that this would have saved 95% of the people. Uh-huh. Even if the President had done that and the result was as you suggest, Democrats would now be saying the low number of deaths was just proof that it was all over nothing and an overreaction. Never let a crisis go to waste.
I wouldn't turn this Nick's topic into another meaningless political debate, beside all others things he did are unquestionable facts, but wearing masks?
There's literally tons of footage on Youtube that Trump always tried to minimize COVID nothing as Kung-flu or ordinary flu and never had his MAGA supporters or other citizen to wear masks. LMFAO
Dr. Fauci is just another ceremonial sheep offered as shield to public opinions.
I didn't provide any sources, cauz there are just plenty in the wild, just look it urself.
 
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I wouldn't turn this Nick's topic into another meanless political debate, beside all others things he did are unquestionable facts, but wearing masks?
There's literally tons of footage on Youtube that Trump always tried to minimize COVID nothing as Kung-flu or ordinary fly and never had his MAGA supporters or other citizen to wear masks. LMFAO
Dr. Fauci is just another cerimonial sheep offered as shield to public opinions.
I didn't provide any sources, cauz there are just plenty in the wild, just look it urself.

Not debating any of that. Just pointing out that a claim like "95% would have survived if he'd just done this one thing" is a bunch of crap.

The Covid19 virus is bad news, but keeping it in perspective it has produced a total death toll in this year about 3-4 times the usual death toll from flu in any given year at most (and it'll be interesting to see the number of regular flu deaths for 2020, as I suspect it'll be unusually low since they're all getting bundled with Covid). Preventative safety measures are good, within reason. But viruses eventually work their way around to everyone and don't really ever go away, so we're mostly just slowing the burn. The flu strain that killed a million worldwide in 1968-69 is still active.
 
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Even though Trump is obese and older the odds of him surviving are greater than of him dying. COVID has an overall 99.8% survival rate and most people that get it don't even get sick. I also keep hearing people say Trump is low income, which is stupid because he makes $400,000 a year that he chooses to give away to charities. The odds are Trump isn't going anywhere.

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Speculation.

And you're going back to February?? Isn't that when Pelosi and Deblasio were still telling people to go on with life as-normal, and Democrats were saying that Trump was racist and xenophobic for imposing his overreaction travel ban?

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/nancy-pelosi-visits-san-franciscos-chinatown/2240247/
https://ny.eater.com/2020/3/11/21175497/coronavirus-nyc-restaurants-safe-dine-out

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/02...obic-travel-ban-punishes-americans-above-all/
https://dc.medill.northwestern.edu/...hobic-and-xenophobic-civil-rights-groups-say/
https://nypost.com/2020/05/19/biden-trumps-coronavirus-response-is-nakedly-xenophobic/


And when Fauci was still advising against wearing masks.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-doesnt-regret-advising-against-masks-early-in-pandemic-2020-7


But you now say the President should have DICTATED a nationwide mask mandate back in February. And that this would have saved 95% of the people. Uh-huh. Even if the President had done that and the result was as you suggest, Democrats would now be saying the low number of deaths was just proof that it was all over nothing and an overreaction. Never let a crisis go to waste.

People love to blame Trump for not doing enough back in January, but everything he was doing was getting him called a "racist" from the other side while they didn't do jackshit. The only thing the Liberals were concerned with was impeaching the President. So if one side is actively implementing policies to mitigate the virus and the other side is doing nothing about it, which side did more? (Hint for the dense - The Liberals are more guilty then Trump).

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

I wouldn't turn this Nick's topic into another meanless political debate, beside all others things he did are unquestionable facts, but wearing masks?
There's literally tons of footage on Youtube that Trump always tried to minimize COVID nothing as Kung-flu or ordinary flu and never had his MAGA supporters or other citizen to wear masks. LMFAO
Dr. Fauci is just another cerimonial sheep offered as shield to public opinions.
I didn't provide any sources, cauz there are just plenty in the wild, just look it urself.

At the start of things COVID mess the so called self proclaimed "experts" at the CDC and WHO told everyone that masks don't work and then both agencies put out conflicting information every single week. If you're going to blame the source of the problems it would be wise to include why people don't trust these agencies instead of the normal TDS bullshit "orange man bad". You'd think someone that was to blame for everything that happens wrong in everyone's life would be so powerful he was actually responsible for it. You need to get over your delusions while I get back to anticipating another great 4 years with Trump as the President.
 
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He'll just hold virtual rallies from now on, lol. But in all seriousness, he refused to take basic precautions against the infection, he refused to allow his staff to do so, same goes for his family. I'm mildly surprised that it took this long for him to catch corona-chan.
 

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At the start of things COVID mess the so called self proclaimed "experts" at the CDC and WHO told everyone that masks don't work and then both agencies put out conflicting information every single week. If you're going to blame the source of the problems it would be wise to include why people don't trust these agencies instead of the normal TDS bullshit "orange man bad". You'd think someone that was to blame for everything that happens wrong in everyone's life would be so powerful he was actually responsible for it. You need to get over your delusions while I get back to anticipating another great 4 years with Trump as the President.
yes indeed!, i believe Trump within the years to come, he will build another Great Wall in Portland and Chicago, just to keep violent Blacks, Mexicans and other minorilties out from Whites, and minolities even gonna pay for it?
 
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yes indeed!, i believe Trump within the years to come, he will build another Great Wall in Portland and Chicago, just to keep violent Blacks, Mexicans and other minorilties out from Whites, and minolities even gonna pay for it?

You think you're funny, but I'm not the one that thinks the entire Republican party are sheep that hang on Trump's every last word. The only person responsible for your problems is you. The things that you choose to do or choose not to do are your choices. You are the only one responsible for your actions. Unlike the Liberals that cling to every word and need direction from their leadership Conservatives make their own choices based on their own personal experiences and common sense. They don't sit around and blame a single man for things they simply don't like in their lives that they have control over and he does not. Grow up.
 
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Not debating any of that. Just pointing out that a claim like "95% would have survived if he'd just done this one thing" is a bunch of crap.

The Covid19 virus is bad news, but keeping it in perspective it has produced a total death toll in this year about 3-4 times the usual death toll from flu in any given year at most (and it'll be interesting to see the number of regular flu deaths for 2020, as I suspect it'll be unusually low since they're all getting bundled with Covid). Preventative safety measures are good, within reason. But viruses eventually work their way around to everyone and don't really ever go away, so we're mostly just slowing the burn. The flu strain that killed a million worldwide in 1968-69 is still active.
How do you figure? Estimated influenza deaths in the United States averages out to 36k annually:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Covid19's death toll is already over 200k with some estimates having it surpassing 400k by the end of the year.
 

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The internet loves to cry out for blood when it comes to someone they don’t like. But regardless of anything Trump has done, no one should wish a man and his wife die tragically to this virus.

But, honestly, Trump really did nothing to avoid getting COVID. All his mask hate earned him this, from his own incompetence. Given how he didn’t wear masks and was blasé about the existence of the virus, well, I doubt he’s actually lying. BoJo getting COVID and recovering didn’t really change much, did it? In terms of anti-maskers.

I guess we’ll see where the soap opera level dramatics of 2020’s plot line takes us.

What about being curious about how his suggested cures work on himself?
I mean, right now would be the perfect moment to test the effectiveness of cleansing the body with disinfectant. Has anyone looked into that already?

After all, that's what he suggested himself.
 
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Even though Trump is obese and older the odds of him surviving are greater than of him dying. COVID has an overall 99.8% survival rate and most people that get it don't even get sick. I also keep hearing people say Trump is low income, which is stupid because he makes $400,000 a year that he chooses to give away to charities. The odds are Trump isn't going anywhere.
Where did you come up with this figure? Influenza has a 99.9% survival rate. Your estimate suggests that Covid19 is only 2x as deadly as influenza, which sounds too good to be true.
 

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You think you're funny, but I'm not the one that thinks the entire Republican party are sheep that hang on Trump's every last word. The only person responsible for your problems is you. The things that you choose to do or choose not to do are your choices. You are the only one responsible for your actions. Unlike the Liberals that cling to every word and need direction from their leadership Conservatives make their own choices based on their own personal experiences and common sense. They don't sit around and blame a single man for things they simply don't like in their lives that they have control over and he does not. Grow up.
Yes, and i like making trump jokes too, plus he already spent Billions of American taxpayers money to build Mexican wall, It's highly probable he would do the same with minorities.

I LIVE IN EU, honestly i don't really give shit how american election goes.
 
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How do you figure? Estimated influenza deaths in the United States averages out to 36k annually:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Covid19's death toll is already over 200k with some estimates having it surpassing 400k by the end of the year.


Estimates on annual flu deaths are all over the place. 12,000 to 60,000 a year. And every year is different. Very different, as in these things aren't that reliable. As you say, it 'averages out' to 36k, but since annual flu season is not typically politicized those numbers are not conflated so much by other related causes. Flu deaths are flu deaths. Pneumonia deaths are pneumonia deaths. With the Covid totals being reported, almost everyone involved also had other conditions, especially pneumonia. But they all died a "Covid-related" death.

If you look at this, the deaths from flu in 2017-2018 were 61,000.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
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But if you check this page on Covid19-related deaths, the flue deaths for this year are only 6,700. And that's with or without Covid19 and/or pneumonia. Where did they all go???
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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Where did you come up with this figure? Influenza has a 99.9% survival rate. Your estimate suggests that Covid19 is only 2x as deadly as influenza, which sounds too good to be true.

The death statistics keep changing, but the general figures are that 99.8% of people who get infected don't die and that is calculated for overall infections as that number does decrease with age. Here's one of many articles that has recent figures in it.

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https://www.tampabay.com/news/flori...to-full-capacity-as-florida-moves-to-phase-3/

Edit:
I want to mention that the more people who get tested the more the percentage of deaths goes down. The reason we see more spikes of infections is not because more people are getting infected, it's because we have more testing. It just shows that most people already had COVID and didn't even know it as they didn't get sick nor have any lingering symptoms. For most people COVID isn't really a big deal.

Only a small percentage get hospitalized, and out of that small percentage only a few die. Then out of that few they are mostly older people with pre-existing conditions. So you see the death rate is really low. I don't think we have anything to worry about regarding Trump, but I'm not a genie and can tell the future. I just hope he doesn't get sick and die, but if he does my vote will simply go to Pence. Pence seems like an okay guy.
 
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