Does Anyone Else Feel Nintendo Is On Verge Of Collapse?

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  1. heat6jones
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    It appears the 3DS has been a failure so far with there already having been a huge price cut and several third party titles being canceled. The 3D feature is simply not something a kid can enjoy because 100% of kids have ADD these days and are not capable of holding the 3DS still. They have to jitter and move around because of the hyperactivity we are used to thanks to things like the internet and ipods where we constantly have something exciting us and alerting us. Gone are the days where someone settles down with a nice book and patiently holds it still while reading it. I don't know if kids can read these days actually. They know enough to google search porn and send offensive messages on PSN but that's about it. They spell terribly.

    Aside from that the 3DS hardware is lackluster. The games I've played don't look impressive at all. Take into account the 3D makes the graphics look worse and it's just a huge mess in that department. As for the crowd that says graphics don't matter, well, frankly there aren't any good games out for 3DS other than OOT3D and that's an experience most of us have already had.

    My last criticism of the 3DS before addressing the WIIU is that it isn't impressive as a portable media device. It originally launched without a web browser but they have since released one for the device. Still, you can't stream videos on the 3DS unless you use the Nintendo Video service. The service does not allow you to pick the videos you want to watch and instead forces out videos Nintendo wants you to watch. Really ridiculous idea in this day and age. People enjoy the freedom of the internet and being able to look at what they want to. We are blessed so that we don't have to listen to little wayne. We can go on youtube and watch whatever we want. People don't like the old standard of TV and Radio picking what they should listen to. We like freedom and Nintendo must understand that.

    Now for the WiiU. Apparently it'll feature graphical capabilities similar to the PS3 and 360. I can't help but think this is too little too late. I'm also skeptical as to how much third party support the console will receive. If the console doesn't sell well, the developers will surely abandon ship. Also Nintendo refuses to implement features found on other consoles. They won't add a system similar to the trophy/achievement system (they didn't add it to 3DS and they haven't mentioned it being on WiiU), they won't fix their online gaming setup (still using friend codes? Even if it's just one it's stupid), and they aren't adding support for DVD and blu-ray playback. I already own a PS3 which will play DVD and blu-ray but it just feels cheap for them not to add these basic features. The video game companies have to stop being lazy. Smart phones and tablets do basically everything these days and they support small developers who want to create software. With the consoles they've attempted to move in that direction with DLC and WiiWare but they need to open it up more. Let small developers create programs not just games.

    I really like Nintendo and will be buying the WiiU. I purchased the 3DS on launch as well and I own a Wii, DS lite and still have possession of my Gamecube. I also bought a Sega Dreamcast on launch though and I loved it. Nintendo seems to be heading in the wrong direction and I would hate to see a world with no Nintendo. I don't know if I could live anymore.
     


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    Yeah, let them finish counting their DS/Wii money and then they can worry about going under.

    They should be set for a number of years.
     
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    Yup. Totally. They were the most successful company last gen in terms of sales.

    OH NO! They sold 400,000+ units of the 3DS at launch! They're gonna collapse!

    Nope. They're doing as good as ever.
     
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    And as you should know, Nintendo is (was?) the only company cutting a decent profit off of hardware.

    Price cut = more buyers.

    More buyers = more software that will sell.

    Not to mention the oodles of money they will make off of the eShop.
     
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    They will get back on their feet.
     
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    The N64 was a (commercial) failure. As was the GC.

    Is Nintendo gone?

    No.
     
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    Take it easy man.
    The 3DS hasn't even been out half a year for COL !
    The Wii U is still far on the horizons, but promises good.
    You talk about young people today incapable of reading, you seam to be incapable of waiting....
    Just sit back and relax, good things will come, but you need a little patience.
    Honestly what do you expect from a system that's only recently being launched ? You say you own other systems, do you remember what was it like the first 6 months for the GC, Wii or even the DS ?
    I personally didn't buy my first DS Phat in the first year, I waited until Castlevania DS came out to purchase one !
    I am still happy with my DSiXL to tell you the truth, there are still many games I need to catch up to, while I wait for really good games to come out for the 3DS and then purchase one.
    I consider the 3DS a much more powerful DS, so if I've been happy with the DS for the past few years, I'll be perfectly happy with the 3DS, and honestly I can't really wait for the Wii U, I'm sure I'm gonna buy one on day one, but like I said, don't expect miracles in the first year.
    System usually pick on their 3rd or forth year you know...the Wii U is still months away !
    Again,you need a little patience,sit back and relax, good things will come.[​IMG]
     
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    They never really fell "off" their feet.

    They were experimenting with launch protocol; It ended badly.

    Companies never experiment unless they have the money to recover. And trust me. They do.
     
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    The ideas for the 3DS and Wii U...

    The Wii did good since it was NEW. No one knew what the possibilities were!
    The DS... 2 screens? At first, everyone was like, WTF? Then they realized that 1 screen isn't enough.

    The 3DS...we've had 3D for a long time, and having it glasses-free isn't enough to justify $170. What it needs is a good game that puts the 3D to good use.

    The Wii U... Nintendo is just launching a product off of the failing tablet market.

    I think the only thing that could save them is... MIND CONTROL GAMING!
     
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    Nintendo has had failures before. I doubt this will be more than a small bump in the road. What Nintendo needs to take from this is they need to pay closer attention to markets other than Japan. US an EU don't get the good colors, or games localized in a timely manner if at all. If Nintendo is going to give all the goodies to the Japanese market then I'm not going to by. Hit me with some good colors and good games before next year and I'll open my wallet. Don't do that and Nintendo could drop the price by another $80 and I still wouldn't buy.
     
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    Didn't hurt them too much honestly, like Slyakin said they have the money to fall back on from the run away success of the Wii and DS and its various incarnations. I am not a fan of the route they have taken with the 3DS and the Wii, but they are far from collapsing.
     
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    I really don't see why people are complaining about the 3DS though; It has most of the features that a "gamer" wants (like better graphics, analog) and everything else is there to ignore if you want (you can turn off 3D, the cameras aren't required, etc.)

    ...But that's just me.
     
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    Totes. My main problem lies in the fact that there have not been any interesting releases yet for me to jump ship from my DSL. I think that they should have released a few more IP's or eshop games in the beginning(as well as fixing the eshop in general). Having played on a friends I really don't see a need for the upgrade other than me wanting another copy of OoT. In due time it will flourish I expect, but I think they just let it languish a bit in the beginning and they are trying to make up for it now.
     
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    Ehm.....How can I put this......to make you understand.
    The 3DS is NOT a failure. It sold over 4 millions world wide already ( think about how many millions sold the DS phat or even the PSP in their first six months ) and will continue to sell.
    I said it before but nobody listens: If Nintendo didn't release a lot of first party killing games at launch, it was all because of their master plan to give room to 3rd party developers to sell their games.
    If you've been fallowing Nintendo history at all during the past generations, 3rd party support has always been inconsistent because anybody knew that the next release of Super Mario or Smash Bros would completely overwhelm the market and sell millions......there's only so much money that the average family is going to spend on video games, and having too many first party's would give zero chance to other publishers to sell their owns on a Nintendo system, thus making the platform less appealing from a business point of view...resulting in lack of support.
    What they are doing, is helping other companies to sell their games.
    Good, awesome first party games will come, I know it, you know it.

    Now to the hardware sales debate......again it's a strategy.
    Usually when Nintendo releases a new system, there is a massive ad campaign all over the word.
    Not so with the 3DS this time.
    Why you ask ? It's again all part of a master plan.
    Nintendo has been wise not to push it too much. Remember the first two years for the Wii and the endless critics about shortages and supplying problems ?
    This gen Nintendo simply decided to save millions on advertising (!) and avoid the usual rush at the system launch where every morons wants to get one just because.
    Instead they started slowly, keeping up with demands, and saving some huge bucks without alienating anyone. Yes.
    Picture this : I new kid on the block wants a DS. The parent goes to the store. The clerk politely points out that the DS is about to be discontinued, and there is a new model out called 3DS that can play all the DS games plus future, new games.
    The parent gets the 3DS.
    Or most likely the DS family gets slowly out of production, more difficult to find, and anyway all the new games are coming out exclusively for the 3DS; what will the parent buy , even without fully knowing the new model's spec ?
    It's true that the 3DS hasn't exactly flown like hot cakes, but it sold alright, and it will continue to sell staidly in the years to come just like the DS slowly obliterated the GBA. It's a very simple low and frankly I'm surprised that people have doubts and even start topics like this.
    It's just too soon, get over it. Be patient.
    /Sometimes I feel these forums a populated by an army of 12 years old./

    There you have it, I didn't want to use the long explanation........ because it's long.
    EDIT: fixed some massive spelling problems !
     
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    When PSN was hacked, it was all about "its the end for Sony", we had the forum flooding with topics like that.
    Now the season shifted to nintendo?

    They are not going bankrupt -.-
    Just a bad start with the 3DS and its not looking too good in the coming near future.
    But doesnt mean, its th end for them.
     
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    The only way Nintendo would go down is if the Wii-U is a failure and the next one after is as well.
    Which is highly unlikely not to sound like a super fanboy.


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    its always fun to see people who have no idea of anything make up their little theories.

    think about this: sony always cuts the prices for their consoles even before launch.

    while nintendo already made money with the 4 million sold 3ds', they now wont make any loss for god knows how many more sold 3ds at a cheaper price.

    sony on the other hand will make losses starting from the first sold vita. and it wouldnt even surprise me, if many people were to hold back on buying many games, in hopes for a quick hack

    (which btw seems to be what people wait with the 3ds too... kinda guess that many, many people just dont want to buy games after all these years with a flashcard)
     
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    No. I do not feel Nintendo is going under. However, I do feel this thread is as useful as shit.
     

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