Do you feel the USA is better now than it was 22 years ago?

Are things getting better or worse for the "Greatest Country in the World"?

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So do you not support police, then? There's benefits to them, especially if someone is damaging to society, and they can easily be abused too.
There are benefits to arming people too, but that can also easily be abused.

A good government, good police force and not having citizens armed is a much better situation. Europe manages it pretty well, I kind of wonder what is different about the US that makes it behave in a way that puts it so high in the ranks.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime

Is it because of all the convicts that were exported to the US?
 
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while they sell weapons for feeding most conflicts all around the globe.
For sellers to sell there must also be buyers.
The US have a ton of problems (healthcare on top...) but trying to frame them as the big baddie of the world is very funny. China isn't better, Russia isn't better, on the contrary, Europe only pretends they're better but they also sell weapons and in general countries with sufficient power tend to meddle in international affairs.
The US look after their interests, just like any other country.
 

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Europe only pretends they're better but they also sell weapons and in general countries with sufficient power tend to meddle in international affairs.
This is why NATO expansion is such a good idea, not only does it protect countries who join from Russia but also from other NATO countries.
 

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Gas lighting from Trump was far worse, the only difference is that your kids liked that he was so abhorrent.

Why did you bring your kids up to be so weak that they needed a sexual predator in the whitehouse who supported white supremacists?
When you are talking about sexual preditors in the white house, I take it you mean when Biden was having naked showers with his daughter, or are you talking about Hunter Biden banging under age crack whores (or his dead brothers wife), or the time when Bill Clinton (when not visiting Epstein's pedo island) shoved a cigar up Monica Lewinsky.
 
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And this entire conversation started because he attacked anybody with a divergent point of view without even trying to consider it or think what it may mean from the point of view of the other.

What you have described is that people should be more woke, not less. While his argument was along the lines of "these woke people are bad, because they ignore my bigoted opinions about them".

Do you still think he is right?
The term "woke" is tainted by the internet. I prefer to avoid it because it leads to misunderstandings.

But anyway I don't think he is right in directly attacking your post instead of starting a conversation and trying to understand what you meant.

PS: I was lacking context the first time because I misunderstood the series of quotes.
 

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advocate for worker ownership of the means of production, or worker co-ops, or anything of the sort
Worker co-ops are not illegal. The truth is, people do not want them. You are free to let your workers steer your company. Even people who advocate for worker co-ops usually do not practice what they preach. Remember how Iwata took a paycut when the Wii U did poorly? You think all the workers would be ok with that? Why should the cleaning lady be paid less for bad Wii U sales? People only highlight sharing the profits, not losses.
Besides the central banks, this is the main problem of economies around the world: people do not have to accept losses when they risk something (Limited Liability Companies Act).
Voter suppression is massive in various red states, and economic disparity remains a severe problem for people.
Why should there be economic parity? Economic parity takes away incentives to compete.
I don´t know much about voter suppression but I hope you don´t mean the necessity to identitfy yourself with an ID or driver´s license.

...look at why the War on Drugs was created and who it was targeting. They always focused on marginalized groups trying to advocate for socialist policies because they're immediately able to be smeared by the powers that be for being the wrong skin color, gender identity, or sexuality, and so on.
The war on drugs targeted drug dealing.
Imagine a city that wants to fight rape in parks. The city decides to place cameras and police all around the park. Turns out the are much more male than female rapists. Is the policy sexist? Men should be happy that the rapists are identified and taken care of. It improves the "male community"?
Since the war on drugs often relates to Marihuana, my rapist example is not a good analogy. Then think of lesser crimes like fraud. Same principal applies.

Your last sentence is fascinating. Seems like the left perpetually think of themselves as revolutionary, even when they are in power. You´ve got billions of property damage in the wake of George Floyd gone unpunished. The Jan6th morons do not have billionaires and city officials bailing them out. They are not in power.
 

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The term "woke" is tainted by the internet. I prefer to avoid it because it leads to misunderstandings.
The term "woke" is tainted by those with a right wing agenda that don't want people to be "woke".

There are people who try to be woke but are bad at it, or try to use woke as a ploy.

But then there are people who are bad republicans, or use being republican as a ploy.

The right want to cancel woke, which is ironic as they spend all their time arguing against being cancelled.
 

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We don't want to be the police of the world. It's a drain on our resources and what other countries do is none of our business.

Are there no domestic violence cases in your country? If not, that is amazing. You must live in a utopia.

Last week was great. The Constitution was upheld and some power was relinquished from the federal government back to the states.

With all my respect to everyone and to what this really represents:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

@TraderPatTX
Prove, without a reasonable doubt, that the above represents ALL your politicians interests, and I will publicly apologize with you.

Sarcasm is the most useless way to refute someone else's arguments. But also, that's a clear prove that someone's statements are correct, or at least, that have caused an annoyance on us. Most of the time we feel annoyed when something said or done has "touched" a very unconfortable "fiber" on us from a situation/fact that we feel ours.

Oh BTW, my Utopia is a way better place to live than US.

Unless you are willing to prove what I kindly ask you to, I'm done with you, and no more answers will be given.
 
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The self-called "greatest country in the world", can't overcome weapon related home violent affairs but they keep trying to become "the police of the world", while they sell weapons for feeding most conflicts all around the globe.

And now everyone can carry guns on public places, speaking of congruence...

So yes, they're even worse than the last week, let's not talk about years ago, there's no way to compare it.

wouldnt carrying guns in public places make it better?
 

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With all my respect to everyone and to what this really represents:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

@TraderPatTX
Prove, without a reasonable doubt, that the above represents ALL your politicians interests, and I will publicly apologize with you.

Sarcasm is the most useless way to refute someone else's arguments. But also, that's a clear prove that someone's statements are correct, or at least, that have caused an annoyance on us. Most of the time we feel annoyed when something said or done has "touched" a very unconfortable "fiber" on us from a situation/fact that we feel ours.

Oh BTW, my Utopia is a way better place to live than US.

Unless you are willing to prove what I kindly ask you to, I'm done with you, and no more answers will be given.
Where's the sarcasm?
 

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With all my respect to everyone and to what this really represents:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

@TraderPatTX
Prove, without a reasonable doubt, that the above represents ALL your politicians interests, and I will publicly apologize with you.

Sarcasm is the most useless way to refute someone else's arguments. But also, that's a clear prove that someone's statements are correct, or at least, that have caused an annoyance on us. Most of the time we feel annoyed when something said or done has "touched" a very unconfortable "fiber" on us from a situation/fact that we feel ours.

Oh BTW, my Utopia is a way better place to live than US.

Unless you are willing to prove what I kindly ask you to, I'm done with you, and no more answers will be given.
Most politicians in every country are corrupt puppets. It doesn't mean I can't have a different view than the uniparty oligarchy here in the US. It's still legal, for now, to disagree with the government here. We'll see how long it takes for the Dems and RINO's to attack the 1st Amendment like they are attacking the 2nd right now.
 

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There are benefits to arming people too, but that can also easily be abused.

A good government, good police force and not having citizens armed is a much better situation. Europe manages it pretty well, I kind of wonder what is different about the US that makes it behave in a way that puts it so high in the ranks.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime

Is it because of all the convicts that were exported to the US?
Make no mistake, I am not an advocate for arming everyone. I just support the working class and telling capitalists and authoritarians to fuck off, as everyone should.
 
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Most politicians in every country are corrupt puppets. It doesn't mean I can't have a different view than the uniparty oligarchy here in the US. It's still legal, for now, to disagree with the government here. We'll see how long it takes for the Dems and RINO's to attack the 1st Amendment like they are attacking the 2nd right now.
I genuinely wish the dems that live in your head actually held power because the reality is they're a bunch of useless virtue signallers who do fuck all but donation campaigns all day.

"Attacking the 2nd amendment" lmfao
 
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I wish we'd stop the the "Greatest Country in The World" BS. I honestly think it's not better or worse. It's just.. different. There's still plenty of opportunity here for employment and education. You get what you put in.
 

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Make no mistake, I am not an advocate for arming everyone. I just support the working class and telling capitalists and authoritarians to fuck off, as everyone should.
Those damn capitalists who killed over 100 million people in the 20th century alone. Oh wait, that was the fascists and communists. Socialism/globalism always leads to mass deaths wherever it is tried.
 

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I genuinely wish the dems that live in your head actually held power because the reality is they're a bunch of useless virtue signallers who do fuck all but donation campaigns all day.

"Attacking the 2nd amendment" lmfao
Make no mistake, they are not just virtue signaling. They are intentionally trying to piss off the left so you will riot again like you did in 2020 and hope that the right gets fed up enough to take action. It's up to us to not give in to those impulses. We are all Americans and we are all getting played by the administrative state in DC.
 

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Make no mistake, they are not just virtue signaling. They are intentionally trying to piss off the left so you will riot again like you did in 2020 and hope that the right gets fed up enough to take action. It's up to us to not give in to those impulses. We are all Americans and we are all getting played by the administrative state in DC.
Your posts are pretty politically illiterate but this is a new level of brainlessness even for you. Like, the kind of moronic shit I'd expect from Libertarians, not conservatives.

Democrats doing so would get their own party stamped out, dipshit. So that's obviously not their motive. Democrats are not these suicidal secret fascists who would willingly destroy their own party just to put their opponents in power. There's plenty of people in the party now to contradict that just by existing, like the Squad for example.

Literally the most delusional post in this thread.

Until you make another one, that is.
 

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Seeing how the US is among the countries with the highest incarceration rates in the world, then there's something really wrong fundamentaly
 
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