Do you believe in life after death?

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  1. grossaffe

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  3. mercuryshadow09

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    I never claimed it was a documentary and yes, some of it is questionable but there is very valid information to be gleaned from it, besides the Yogis and gurus there are two quantum physicists and a neurologist that make some valid claims, you have to watch it objectively, don't just pass it off as pseudo-science garbage!
     
  4. TecXero

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    It doesn't really matter to me. If there is, then I'm not too worried, I generally try to be a decent person anyway. If not, then I'll just die and cease to think, so I can't regret anyway. I do know that life is now, and what I do will affect others. I'm more concerned about having a positive influence on others now, as the ideas and understanding we spread will be our legacy.
     
  5. grossaffe

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    it's very clearly psuedo-science garbage. It was funded by and directed by the Ramtha School of Enlightenment. You know, the people who follow the person they featured who claims to be a 35,000 year old warrior.
     
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    If you don't want to watch it, don't watch it, it's not going to brain wash you if you do, I don't believe in god but I've read the bible, know what I mean? Like I said, there is some valid info to be gleaned if for nothing more than to ponder something you hadn't thought of yet. When you close your mind, you stop learning!
     
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    energy is the key...since your energy cannot just disappear but simply disperses, why can't that coalesce into something again without a physical limitation?

    i'd like to believe that is the case but sadly i don't have enough knowledge to prove it.
     
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    We all live in the Matrix. /thread
     
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    A lot more now science is leaning toward holographic universe, quantum physics works better in two dimensions.
     
  10. Vengenceonu

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    I think a better question would be: Do you believe in reincarnation? Like if our corpse goes into the ground and the nutrients sprout a plant. Are we that plant? If that plant is eaten by a human male (or female), and becomes ATP for sperm/egg production, are we that sperm/egg? If we win the sperm/egg race, do we come full circle and get another chance at life?
     
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    Yes to all of the above.

    Or you get stuck as a rock. lol
     
  12. grossaffe

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    What can be gleaned from it, that quantum mechanics supports consciousness?

    From Wiki: David Albert, a philosopher of physics who appears in the film, has accused the filmmakers of selectively editing his interview to make it appear that he endorses the film's thesis that quantum mechanics is linked with consciousness. He says he is "profoundly unsympathetic to attempts at linking quantum mechanics with consciousness"

    When the film is clearly propaganda distorting science or just making it up to support their wild cult, there's really not much that can be gleaned from it because of its dishonest approach. I prefer to listen to what real scientists have to say on these subjects in their own words rather than how a third party cuts them up to support their cause.
     
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    And you can say with 100% certainty that it isn't? I mean science tells us that everything else is relative, so why not consciousness?
     
  14. grossaffe

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    No, I cannot. I also cannot say with 100% certainty that the Flying Spaghetti Monster didn't touch the inhabitants of the country of Somalia with his noodly appendage turning them into pirates. That's not what science is about. Science is about explaining things that you can and admitting you don't know things that you, well, don't know. So I cannot say that quantum mechanics does not lead to consciousness, but does not mean its does and it disingenuous to claim such. This is just another case of something we don't fully understand (yet) and is much like the notorious "God of the gaps" where what we don't know can be anything until we do know, so people fill it in with what they want it to be and say "you can't prove me wrong" until they are finally proven wrong and the gap is filled leaving less space to be occupied by a god as we pick up a greater understanding of the universe.
     
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    My opinion on what I expect death to be like is that its exactly the same as not being born yet. I don't recall sitting around for 6 billion years thinking "is it my turn yet?" nor will I sit there for 6 billion years after thinking "well, this is all a bit boring isn't it".

    Like others, the "visions" some of us have during near death experiences is just all the electrical signals being fired off when our brain thinks it'd in dire straits! Nothing more, nothing less.

    Even things like religion to me in this day and age of technology and so forth I find amazing that so many people still believe in it. To me its all like a grown up version of Santa Claus. I cannot get my head around it. Fair play to people though that do believe in it, especially if it gives them some kind of guidance through life etc but no, its not for me. Science, evolution all the way.

    To be fair, religion and everything that goes with it is just a side effect of us becoming massively intelligent animals. And because of this we decided to not accept that we live "just because we do" which is pretty much how every single life form on this planet looks at life. Live, eat, survive, reproduce. Thats about as deep as it gets for 99.9% of the planet. Except for us of course, who just wont accept that it doesn't run any deeper than that.
     
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    I'm certainly not making any claims, I'm speculating and theorizing like everybody else in the thread, why so hostile?
     
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    I'm not being hostile, I was pointing out that the movie you recommended was pseudo-science garbage. You're still free to believe whatever you want, I draw the line when people start misrepresenting science to support their cause, which is why our entire discussion started when you tried to appeal to the law of conservation of energy to support the existence of souls that live forever.
     
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    Besides religious views on it, the best concept I can imagine reading about it is being like seeing into an absolute nothing - Like if you try and look past your eye's natural blind spot, and there's like a void in your vision. That would seem interesting, since it isn't like staring into black..just staring at nothing.
     
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    Who was misrepresenting science and what is my "cause"?
     
  20. Yumi

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    This is a sad debatable topic and so far an impossible question to answer with full belief of both sides.

    I really want to believe there is such a place, where I am sleeping/resting in peace and that I will be able to see my love ones again. I dont have belief in gods or religions. Interesting literature though, makes it appealing to many to believe in that but thats fine i suppose. It's hard to go by and never question it but to many its better to think one way only. So, I don't think I can answer this easily. Only when I am fully dead will I know for myself.
    Don't get me wrong, I love science<3 but phenomenon events happen that cannot be answered only makes me curious and skeptical.

    So, until death, I will live, love, & enjoy life without worrying much about the question.
     
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