do you believe depression and anxiety exist

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I would watch what you say OP, my wife is currently experiencing both depression and anxiety after a huge broken commitment to me. She is dealing with therapy, intrusive thoughts she can't control, and depression. They are very very real. On the other side, Iv experienced the same things in different ways. There was an entire day I couldn't get off the couch. I felt like I was wearing a weighted blanket, not the comforting kind. It's all way too real. I suggest if you think you might have either of these, you should seek professional help.
 

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I would watch what you say OP, my wife is currently experiencing both depression and anxiety after a huge broken commitment to me. She is dealing with therapy, intrusive thoughts she can't control, and depression. They are very very real. On the other side, Iv experienced the same things in different ways. There was an entire day I couldn't get off the couch. I felt like I was wearing a weighted blanket, not the comforting kind. It's all way too real. I suggest if you think you might have either of these, you should seek professional help.
yes, i am in therapy for anxiety
 

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Um yeah, they are real.

Depression is not sadness, it's a feeling of emptiness, hopelessness, inability to find joy or enjoyment in anything. I don't have depression myself, but this is what I've heard from people who have it overall.
 
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First of all, I'm not an expert, nor do I even study this stuff- this is just the opinion that I've formed based on my own life experience and studies, personally. This is what I think.

Humans are complex things that work in ways we still haven't been able to fully observe, scientifically, but the fact of the matter is, not only is every mental disorder "in your head" but also literally everything that makes you who you are, except for raw DNA is also "in your head." The notion of something not being real because it's "in your head" would also invalidate the entirety of what you perceive yourself to be as an individual.

If the question is about whether or not these things exist, empirically- the answer is an irrefutable yes, based on the observations that have been made and documented by biologists, scientists, and doctors over generations of medicine and studies. The issue isn't a matter of whether or not a particular disorder is real or not, but being able to diagnose such things. Because there's little to go off that can be proven by short-term physical observation, generally, proper diagnosis of these things requires thorough psychological examination, which, being something more complex, takes longer and is more expensive.

A lot of people are falsely under the impression that how people feel isn't relevant to whether or not something is real, usually born out of some inherent distrust of your own emotions. The truth is, yes, these things do matter because all human beings have emotions. They play a huge role in the day to day lives of people. This means that the imbalances that are caused by what we call "mental illness" are important, as well.

The same way having a cold can make you miserable, a mental illness can also, indeed, make you miserable. With that, I've established that, indeed, mental illness is something that is worth studying and learning about, so that professionals can help get people suffering from such illnesses the help they need to become healthy, both physically, and mentally.

While it is difficult to directly study the scientific processes behind human emotions and thought, emotions are something we can observe and study, just like everything else. In mental illness, the behaviors, observable emotions, and expressed thoughts- are the symptoms. The right combination of symptoms can then lead to a diagnosis, just like with physical illnesses.

The idea is that we study people that have indicated the potential for mental illnesses to determine what mental illness they have or at least, very likely have based on observation, and prescribe medication and/or therapy to help these people deal with said mental illnesses, so that they may continue living healthy lives.

I think that's a pretty noble pursuit, at least on the surface.
Things can get muddied by money and business, but I'm not here to discuss that.
 

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For the unaware then, much like the vaccines are bad crowd, there is a mental health issues are fake crowd. I wondered at first if we were dealing with that but it seems not.
Said crowd have not yet made as unified a front as the anti vaccine cretins (nor do I expect it). The two main ones I see are from the likes of Scientology and fringe religions or fringe interpretations of mainstream ones, and there is a serious streak within some "taxes=theft"/"love my country, hate my government" set but I must emphasise streak rather than foundational aspect. Going a bit off topic but having seen the rather poor state of mental healthcare where the latter is more popular I can see that being a result. Even outside that the extent of pill usage and pushing therapy where elsewhere your GP/family doctor would maybe just monitor things themselves and no pills would be given does not help.
Speaking of anti vaccine cretins there is a bit of overlap between them and this set -- last one I saw was some nonsense about using hyperbaric chambers to treat vaccine toxicity and thus autism.
You may also see their literature adopt some of the faux scientific concepts so popular within many of the circles previously mentioned, in this case making full use of current scanning technology not being able to show all things going on in a human brain. For those not so familiar with that then a lot of conditions do not have injury/tumours/Alzheimer's style plaques/tissue loss that CT, MRI/NMR, PET scans, electrical activity and such like appear as, this including some types of depression and chemical based things.

1. Mental disorders are on people's heads. Can't think of any mental ill that's not.

On 1. then technically a lot of hormones are produced outside the head/brain region. Should one of those fail then mental changes can result and are cured by sorting the problem that is not in their head.
At the same time, and maybe pushing the definition a bit, see some of the things that happen when people go blind, and then maybe have their sight restored. Prior to that though then a very real depression may occur and can be treated by the same things that treat more conventional depressions.
 

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For the unaware then, much like the vaccines are bad crowd, there is a mental health issues are fake crowd. I wondered at first if we were dealing with that but it seems not.
Said crowd have not yet made as unified a front as the anti vaccine cretins (nor do I expect it). The two main ones I see are from the likes of Scientology and fringe religions or fringe interpretations of mainstream ones, and there is a serious streak within some "taxes=theft"/"love my country, hate my government" set but I must emphasise streak rather than foundational aspect. Going a bit off topic but having seen the rather poor state of mental healthcare where the latter is more popular I can see that being a result. Even outside that the extent of pill usage and pushing therapy where elsewhere your GP/family doctor would maybe just monitor things themselves and no pills would be given does not help.
Speaking of anti vaccine cretins there is a bit of overlap between them and this set -- last one I saw was some nonsense about using hyperbaric chambers to treat vaccine toxicity and thus autism.
You may also see their literature adopt some of the faux scientific concepts so popular within many of the circles previously mentioned, in this case making full use of current scanning technology not being able to show all things going on in a human brain. For those not so familiar with that then a lot of conditions do not have injury/tumours/Alzheimer's style plaques/tissue loss that CT, MRI/NMR, PET scans, electrical activity and such like appear as, this including some types of depression and chemical based things.



On 1. then technically a lot of hormones are produced outside the head/brain region. Should one of those fail then mental changes can result and are cured by sorting the problem that is not in their head.
At the same time, and maybe pushing the definition a bit, see some of the things that happen when people go blind, and then maybe have their sight restored. Prior to that though then a very real depression may occur and can be treated by the same things that treat more conventional depressions.
The whole anti vaccination thing started with Andrew Wakefield publishing false studies in 1998 connecting vaccines to autism. Other scientist tried to replicate his work but couldn’t and he was exposed to be a complete fraud. His paper was retracted based on that it was an elaborate fraud and utterly false. He wasn’t allowed to practice medicine anymore. And was found guilty of 30 charges of being irresponsible, of scientific misconduct, and acting dishonestly.

His studies were obviously false but even after proven to be false he still has lots of followers who believes vaccines are bad. Rates of people getting vaccines has dropped in U.S., U.K., and Ireland. So lots, hundreds of thousand kids, are not getting vaccinations to protect from dieseases that causes many to die and be disabled. And not only that but diseases that are easily controllable with vaccines, and having deniers against vaccination, also puts the population in danger.

Even with every study out there saying vaccines does not link to autism. Deniers latch on to 1 obvious fake study that does. They are not properly using the scientific method and reacting on faith based on emotion.
 
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The whole anti vaccination thing started with Andrew Wakefield publishing false studies in 1998 connecting vaccines to autism. Other scientist tried to replicate his work but couldn’t and he was exposed to be a complete fraud. His paper was retracted based on that it was an elaborate fraud and utterly false. He wasn’t allowed to practice medicine anymore. And was found guilty of 30 charges of being irresponsible, of scientific misconduct, and acting dishonestly.

His studies were obviously false but even after proven to be false he still has lots of followers who believes vaccines are bad. Rates of people getting vaccines has dropped in U.S., U.K., and Ireland. So lots, hundreds of thousand kids, are not getting vaccinations to protect from dieseases that causes many to die and be disabled. And not only that but diseases that are easily controllable with vaccines, and having deniers against vaccination, also puts the population in danger.

Even with every study out there saying vaccines does not link to autism. Deniers latch on to 1 obvious fake study that does. They are not properly using the scientific method and reacting on faith based on emotion.

I am familiar with the case, and the general surrounding events and resulting effects, however it goes back far further than that. Various religious groups also go in for it. Indeed go back to some of the early inoculation stuff http://www.britishmuseum.org/resear...5&partId=1&people=18459&peoA=18459-1-7&page=1
 
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I am familiar with the case, and the general surrounding events and resulting effects, however it goes back far further than that. Various religious groups also go in for it. Indeed go back to some of the early inoculation stuff http://www.britishmuseum.org/resear...5&partId=1&people=18459&peoA=18459-1-7&page=1
Anti vaccine users have always existed but the more recent distrust of vaccines has started after Andrew Wakefield published his false studies. Vaccine coverage was at record high levels in the U.S. 1997. They thought measles was eliminated in 2000. But anti vaccines and distrust of the medical field has lead to the great decrease of vaccine use. And measles was at a record high in 2014.
 

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Depression and anxiety should not be neglected. I already experienced it before when I was still studying in college. Playing computer games eases a bit of it and not thinking about the problem that causes it. In Asia, people don't take mental illness seriously sometimes they just ignore people and there is already a warning suggesting that particular person is already experiencing it.
 
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Depression and anxiety should not be neglected. I already experienced it before when I was still studying in college. Playing computer games eases a bit of it and not thinking about the problem that causes it. In Asia, people don't take mental illness seriously sometimes they just ignore people and there is already a warning suggesting that particular person is already experiencing it.
It’s being really neglected in the U.S. United States is one of the worst places in the world to be mentally ill. Lots of mentally sick gets thrown in jail and not properly treated. Their illnesses actually become worse because of this. In places that treats the mentally ill better they actually do better.

Treating mentally ill is expensive. So what they do to save money is to treat people that are not mentally ill, that have mild to medium symptoms, they know will get better over time naturally and a lot quicker, and the people that are actually mentally ill that requires a lot more attention they ignore.

We have a problem with treating people that aren’t mentally ill and the people that are are ignored. Giving medication to people that aren't mentally ill makes things worse from them. You are basically trying to treat something they don’t have, but they do get they negative consequences that comes with medication.
 

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I have anxiety. I deal with it by deep breaths and music. It used to be a lot worse but as I got older I think I got mentally stronger. My anxiety peeks in crowded places though. My mom sings when her anxiety kicks in. You just have to figure out what helps you. Music is great when it's available. I can't listen to music at work.
 
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