Question Do trimmed XCI games look and play exactly as non-trimmed ones?

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  1. JhiF
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    I wonder if there are any visual/performance differences between trimmed and non-trimmed XCI

    I've been researching this quite a lot on the forum but found no answers, so if this has been responded please feel free to delete the thread. :)
     
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  2. noahc3

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    There is no difference, trimmed just removes the empty space from the file.

    Carts come in different sizes, 4GB, 8GB, 16GB, etc, but it's unlikely games will use all of the space. The releases you find are direct image dumps of the carts as XCI files, meaning they exactly match the contents of the cart storage, including unused space. When you trim, you just remove that unused space from the file to make it smaller. None of the game files themselves are being sacrificed in any way.
     
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  3. wurstpistole

    wurstpistole I got 8 warning points

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    Trimmed everything, and everything works
     
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  4. subcon959

    subcon959 teh retro

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    If I'm not mistaken you can restore the files to untrimmed size again with the same app so there's no downside.
     
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  5. F1NATIK

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    Nah it goes in abit easier don't have to get all the hair out of the way. Trimmed is better
     
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  6. zahimi

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    Trimmed FTW
     
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    Can you trim an XCI and still keep the cert intact?
     
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  8. subcon959

    subcon959 teh retro

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    Yes, they are unrelated.
     
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  9. Jayro

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    Good to know, I should trim my personal dumps then.
     
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  10. Biff627

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    Yes! Trimming is just removing the 0'd out portion of the card dump Its just a bunch of FFFFFFFFFFFF's at the end so it doesnt matter. I have moved to all NSP installs though since the load times are a lot better and noticeable.
     
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  11. Jayro

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    I will be too, once more NSP dumps appear (Or XCI dumps can be easily converted) and an easier NSP installer that isn't DevMenu is made.
     
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  12. jakkal

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    Nsp > trimmed
     
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  13. Reecey

    Reecey Mario 64 (favorite game of all time)

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    Trimmed is way better! if it's not trimmed I an't going anywhere near it! I make sure all mine are trimmed before any action is taken.
     
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    Rules to live by, as long as we're still on the SUBJECT AT HAND. ;)
     
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  15. Reecey

    Reecey Mario 64 (favorite game of all time)

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    Absolutely!!! subject is always on the agenda! ;)
     
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    Wow I didn't know that about the trimming process, I was considering using NSP to install DLC's on my XCI but I was a little afraid to get a ban since I'm online with some card 1 XCI's with my Zelda cert just like @Reecey. Will my saves work right off the bat if I move my XCI's to NSP?
     
  17. oldmumak

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    What are you guys using to trim? Please no Schick or Gillette jokes.
     
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  18. Biff627

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    I believe xci organizer will do it. Theres also xci explorer

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    Saves are internal so as long as the nsp has the same I'd as the xci they will carry over. The nsp install will overtake the spot if the xci copy on the homemenu
     
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  19. fragged

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    This is exactly what I'm testing right now. Had Zelda BotW game cart along with legit purchased DLC creating the original save. Then I installed the xci (and updated on OFW) so I didn't have to take the card out to switch games. I'm currently installing the nsp's to system memory for BotW, update, and both DLCs with DevMenu. I did backup my saves with Checkpoint incase something goes wrong.
     
  20. NotMii

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    I've gotten information from a reliable source that trimmed games in fact report differently than non-trimmed games. SX OS doesn't emulate trimmed games sizes correctly. Whether that'll get you banned or not, no one knows.
     
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