Direct X 11.1 is Windows 8 exclusive, no plans to retrofit

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  1. Feels Good Man
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    http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/12/direct-x-11-1-is-windows-8-exclusive-no-plans-to-retrofit/

    This is like Windows Vista and DX10 all over again. Bahahaha

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    Meh, I'll live...... I think :P
     
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    DX 11 for the sake of changing my currently good OS to a live tile gimmicky layout?
    No thanks, I'll pass. This is not Vista -> 7.
     
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    I'll definitely live. I recently just started PC gaming again and the lot of games I've been playing only ever show using DX9. And, I don't notice the small GR8 GFX OMG stuff anyway.
     
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    A. I'm using Windows 8 in the first place
    B. I don't have a proper graphics card
    So yeah, not really relevant for me. It's good that MS is really trying to push their new OS though (especially the people still on XP should really upgrade).
     
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    ...and? What's wrong in that?

    Microsoft made it clear that they are going to phase out old-style Windows in favour of the new style - Windows 8 is *better* at a variety of tasks and if you're so sacred of Metro, you can always use a third-party start menu. I fail to understand the animosity towards a system that's simply better than 7.

    Knowing life, the system files will be "ported" anyways - Windows 7 and 8 are for the most part compatible with each other and it should not pose a problem for hobbysts.
     
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    why do people hate windows 8 I and my CS friends have upgraded and they all like it so why do people hate it.

    Accept change and move on windows 8 the really big difference between that and 7 is that the Start menu has a GUI thats the only difference I have seen so stop complaining it works and it works well and faster than 7
     
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    Interesting. Although I was never a fan of the move I could kind of see them not bothering with DX10 on XP. I shall have to ponder what DX11.1 actually means (DX10 was something of a leap until it more or less stalled with Vista and the consoles still being DX9 vintage and DX11 was but a minor tweak on that) before I decide whether I should be annoyed. WINE and similar such projects seem to be doing a bit as well (too early to call whether ReactOS will remain an amusement forever although that I am considering it probably says something).

    That said Windows 8 legit licenses are not that bad (and I dare say the 128 gig RAM limit of the entry edition vs the 512 of the big boy editions probably won't trouble anything)- were I looking at a price like that of a standalone 7 license it might come down a "on principle thing".
     
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    TBH I kinda like Windows 8's layout, I think people need to realize that desktops can't look like Windows 95 reskins for their entire lifespan.

    I'm really thinking about upgrading to Windows 8 if it has compatibility with stuff that matters. While I'm not a big gamer on my laptop this is just a small bonus incentive.
     
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    Humans hate change, and the windows 8 desktop/UI is a radical change from the desktop that a lot of us have used almost every day for over 15 years.

    It's like if somebody came out with a car that has the steering wheel in your seat and you steer with your butt. It doesn't matter how much safer it is, how much more ergonomic, or how much easier it is for a new user... it's detrimental to people used to the standard workflow, and for that reason they're very hesitant to change.
     
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    They can shove it up their ass; I'm not getting windows 8 as dx 11 is working fine for me don't need 11.1. Win7 and dx 11 work just fine and will still be supported for ages anyway so no loss to me.
     
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    I thought it was more to do with a lot of very notable developers and studios coming out against the platform stating how closed it is. I'll just repost these quotes from Croteam:

    I don't know much about Windows 8 to know if it's just developers overreacting but a lot of the negative comments I've read have mentioned all of this and very few are pissed because it means eventually you'll have to buy W8 to run the latest software. Those who hate the tiled design just say "meh, I'll switch to desktop mode".
     
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    I've been using Win8 for a month or something and the only thing it was not compatible with were my Bluetooth drivers (which I never use anyway). And yeah most people are just going "IT LOOKS DIFFERENT SO I HATE IT GET OFF MAH LAWN".

    You can still do everything you could in Desktop mode, but it is true that the MS Store is limited. Then again, as long as the desktop mode is still there and working, it's not like it's mandatory for devs to port their stuff to the MS store.
     
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    Oh, I can see that, but at the same time, we traded the command line for GUI's back in the day and I don't see people running around and nagging how the command line is far superior due to its capacity to inject parameters when running executables.

    It takes some time to get used to the new GUI - of course it does. I personally don't understand why Metro isn't just an optional overlay to ease the users into using it, but I'm not going to condemn an entire system because of it, especially if I can download a plugin that'll put the Start Menu right where it belongs.

    The fun part is that most people don't really use Start Menu shortcuts - it's infinitely easier to put your shortcuts on the desktop and use that instead. Using the Start Menu, it takes several clicks and a lot of navigation to find what you're looking for, unless you're using the search bar. With Metro, all your executables are in one place, you can customize tiles and icons to your liking and you can *still* search, so at the end of the day, this really does run down to hating.

    The MetroUI is *confusing at first*, I'll give you that. I personally prefere using the standard desktop, which is why I have a desktop tile set up. Heck, I even like the Start Menu, but I can make-due without, really.
     
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    Well, if you want to try and get the gamers on board, this is one way to do it.

    I do think a lot of this Windows hate (or Windows H8 if you like) is misguided. While I could understand being upset about the more closed nature of the OS, most complaints I've seen center around the Metro design... which is something you can easily change anyway.
     
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    Some food for thought...

    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    And yes, I know you can put icons on the taskbar. You can put icons on the Metro UI as well, so that's not an advantage.
     
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    You basically said your post doesn't matter with that closing statement.
     
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    Not really - the taskbar is not the size of the entire screen, nor can you divide it into changable tabs.

    If anything, I said (well, implied) that Metro does the same job the Start Menu did and more.
     
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    People use the Start menu?
     
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