Hacking DIOS MIOS! GC ISO Loader proof of concept (Starfox Assault)

[s3phir0th115]

That's the thing too. Modchips can circumvent it.

And if his goal is to take the profit out of piracy (the WODE), how is he going to do that when the WODE works with plain ISO's and his won't? People will still purchase the WODE for that alone.

Either way, it's a waste of resources that could be better put toward improving the software itself. Someone will probably find a way to get around whatever protection he puts in it anyway. If $500,000 copy protection won't stop people, I don't think anything he comes up with will.

I don't mean to insult his work or him or anything, but it's been proven time and time again that any form of DRM doesn't work, and is always circumvented given enough time.

 

[keine]

Yeah. I would rather buy a WODE than deal with Crediar's grand holier than thou scheme. If it gets released and I can't transfer an iso I have on my PC to my hard drive somehow someway.....i'll make a WODE purchase. BETS ARE ON!

 

[FenrirWolf]

You can put a game on your HDD as many times as ya like. Doesn't mean the thing will boot in the loader. =P

 

[sorgelig]

Too much noise from nothing. Let's see release first.
i'm already not sure will it be release at all.

 

[Xeno43]

How about those people's whose wii drives have died and are only able to use a usb drive now?...

 

[Yuan]

How about those people's whose wii drives have died and are only able to use a usb drive now?...

They will need to replace their drives

Now serious, he doesn't need to care with people without this or that. He is releasing a FREE app, so he can make any limitation he wants. If you don't like, either don't use it (or wait to someone modify it to suit your needs).

 

[nl255]

Yeah. I would rather buy a WODE than deal with Crediar's grand holier than thou scheme. If it gets released and I can't transfer an iso I have on my PC to my hard drive somehow someway.....i'll make a WODE purchase. BETS ARE ON!

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If there is any actual DRM (aside from the dumper just not working on burned discs) then it will be cracked like a walnut within a month tops. The only PC DRM system that took longer to crack was StarForce and that worked by compiling some of the game's code to custom bytecode that had to be run in a custom virtual machine and I doubt that approach would work with a custom MIOS. Worst case is you will have to put the ISO on your USB drive and run an app on the Wii to convert/encrypt the ISO to be compatible.

 

[skk-depth]

Love it or hate it, but for me, besides Wii64 & WiiSX, this is the most anticipiated homebrew app at the moment. Hopefully crediar can pull it off, props to him for his hard work.

 

[robo989]

Yeah. I would rather buy a WODE than deal with Crediar's grand holier than thou scheme. If it gets released and I can't transfer an iso I have on my PC to my hard drive somehow someway.....i'll make a WODE purchase. BETS ARE ON!

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If there is any actual DRM (aside from the dumper just not working on burned discs) then it will be cracked like a walnut within a month tops. The only PC DRM system that took longer to crack was StarForce and that worked by compiling some of the game's code to custom bytecode that had to be run in a custom virtual machine and I doubt that approach would work with a custom MIOS. Worst case is you will have to put the ISO on your USB drive and run an app on the Wii to convert/encrypt the ISO to be compatible.

OT

But, you're comments on protections is completely wrong. Safedisc2 took about a year to be cracked. Later versions of Securom 7 took about 2 years before it was cracked. Tages was never properly cracked. When you say it took less than a month to crack all those protections you talk about in the past, your forgetting that it took less than a month for each game, but that is because the main protection behind it had already been cracked. Generally speaking, (well not these days because publishers don't bother using any genuinely new protection) a new protection takes anything from 3 months to a couple of years to be properly cracked. Cracked, as in to say that any release using that protection can be cracked in a day or two.

 

[SanGor]

People are way too sure that it will be cracked there quite some reasons why we might never see a crack at all.

First of all who is going to crack it? I doubt anyone of TT will do it or wanin or someone else (sorry if I forgot some major hacker I don't know)
Then debugging, there is no way to live debug any IOS code so you must RE it by hand and who knows what crediar has planed to prevent that.
And last but not least the biggest joker, crediar could release a not "prefect" release and once a crack comes he just stops making updates.

Also updates could include fixes to the protection or whatever, remember cracking a commercial game is different from cracking a free homebrew release,
so even people who would be able to crack it might not do it.

oh and I just remembered; riivolution that's not "cracked" either eh?

 

[VashTS]

you dont need riivolution. you can edit the iso. there is nothing to crack really, just work around.

 

[crwys]

People are way too sure that it will be cracked there quite some reasons why we might never see a crack at all.

First of all who is going to crack it? I doubt anyone of TT will do it or wanin or someone else (sorry if I forgot some major hacker I don't know)
Then debugging, there is no way to live debug any IOS code so you must RE it by hand and who knows what crediar has planed to prevent that.
And last but not least the biggest joker, crediar could release a not "prefect" release and once a crack comes he just stops making updates.

Also updates could include fixes to the protection or whatever, remember cracking a commercial game is different from cracking a free homebrew release,
so even people who would be able to crack it might not do it.

oh and I just remembered; riivolution that's not "cracked" either eh?

Yes but we did find a way to get around riivolution with rockband 2 using uLoader =P

 

[lazor]

i wish someone would crack rawksd so i could use my backup of guitar praise and load imports from amplitude

 

[SFenton]

i wish someone would crack rawksd so i could use my backup of guitar praise and load imports from amplitude

Amplitude < Frequency

 

[lazor]

i wish someone would crack rawksd so i could use my backup of guitar praise and load imports from amplitude

Amplitude < Frequency

frequency sold out with their latest album, at least amplitude stayed true to their sound

 

[SFenton]

i wish someone would crack rawksd so i could use my backup of guitar praise and load imports from amplitude

Amplitude < Frequency

frequency sold out with their latest album, at least amplitude stayed true to their sound

Sales > lazor's opinion

 

[lazor]

i wish someone would crack rawksd so i could use my backup of guitar praise and load imports from amplitude

Amplitude < Frequency

frequency sold out with their latest album, at least amplitude stayed true to their sound

Sales > lazor's opinion

you know what sold well? rock band

i think we can all agree how objectively terrible that game is

 

[s3phir0th115]

you dont need riivolution. you can edit the iso. there is nothing to crack really, just work around.

This. In Riivolution's case, there are plenty of ways to do what you need to do. With Uneek for instance, I can just copy a game folder and paste as a different folder name, then perform your desired modifications of the folders.

That's not the only way either. There are several.

Also, DIOS MIOS would be the only way to do gamecube usb loading on a Wii. So if there is a practical reason for it to be cracked, I'm sure it will be. I for one don't want to dump games with my Wii again that I already have nicely archived on either burned discs or my hard drive.

 

[AerialX]

you dont need dios mios. you can use the disc. there is nothing to crack really, just work around.

 

[SFenton]

i wish someone would crack rawksd so i could use my backup of guitar praise and load imports from amplitude

Amplitude < Frequency

frequency sold out with their latest album, at least amplitude stayed true to their sound

Sales > lazor's opinion

you know what sold well? rock band

i think we can all agree how objectively terrible that game is

I personally think they should've stopped with Guitar Hero... they got all those fanboys and left their old stuff behind. I've only liked their side project "Phase"