Defragging my hard drive

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Ok, I finally chose to defrag my hard drive to improve the peformance of the computer a bit.

"about 5 hours remaining"

Damn hard drive had over half of it fragmented
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You could always get a solid-state drive and not worry about fragmentation.
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By the way the inbuilt windows program to defragment drives sucks and does take ages to complete...
 

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Edhel said:
You could always get a solid-state drive and not worry about fragmentation.
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By the way the inbuilt windows program to defragment drives sucks and does take ages to complete...

1. I'd rather have a slower, bigger capacity HDD than a fast, lower capacity hard drive. (More space for those games
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2. I'm using this random program called TuneUp Utilities which can defrag my hard drive.
 

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I used O&O defrag since it's a pretty good defragger... but it didn't help much when my HDD is 50% fragged and doesn't have much space left(often less than a gig since I won't give up my anime watching habit). Even if I did try to defrag again, it would take over a day to do the whole HDD so 5 hours is nothing. I should reformat and reinstall instead but I don't have any space HDDs. I got this program way too late to use it on my already full drive. There a real time feature that I never got to try... so when I format, I guess I'll just reinstall this.

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So if I were to defrag all of my drives (which I'm not going to do), how long do you think it would take me?

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@TheWingless is that drive 193 GB? You should probably upgrade if you want to keep downloading anime.
 

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Law said:
So if I were to defrag all of my drives (which I'm not going to do), how long do you think it would take me?

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@TheWingless is that drive 193 GB? You should probably upgrade if you want to keep downloading anime.

Well mines only a 160gb hard drive partitioned to 2 parts and its taken 7 hours already >.>
 

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Joe88 said:
fragmenting HDD in this current age of tech is very much pointless

you wont see any performance gain
Son, fragmenting never led to a performance gain.

I would love a defragger that allowed for a possibility of me having more than one physical disk. Step one: copy everything to the other drive. Step two: copy everything back, sans fragmentation. Copying to another physical drive is much faster than moving files around on one drive, and if the drive you're defragging is as full as drives tend to be (*cough*98%*cough*), you copy half the stuff to another drive before defragging it anyhow.
 

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Veho said:
Joe88 said:
fragmenting HDD in this current age of tech is very much pointless

you wont see any performance gain
Son, fragmenting never led to a performance gain.

I would love a defragger that allowed for a possibility of me having more than one physical disk. Step one: copy everything to the other drive. Step two: copy everything back, sans fragmentation. Copying to another physical drive is much faster than moving files around on one drive, and if the drive you're defragging is as full as drives tend to be (*cough*98%*cough*), you copy half the stuff to another drive before defragging it anyhow.

7+ hours wasted
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Edit: 8 hours and 22 minutes wasted and for some reason, the analysis says that the Main C: drive wasn't defragged but D; drive was :S
 

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updowners said:
7+ hours wasted
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No no no, fragmenting is bad, defragmenting it is good. I was poking fun at Joe88 (who seems to have edited his post in the meantime).

But 8 and a half hours to defrag the disk is a bit long.
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I'm having 3 Sata drive in a RAID5 system.
RAID5 is working as Parity checking, a file is sliced in parts, each parts are located on 2 of the 3 drives. If a drive is dead, changing it with a new one allow reconstruction of the data, thus preventing data lost from a dead drive.


How is physically working the fragmentation on a raid5 ? is a given file located at the same place (TOC, and physically) on each drives ?

I've always been afraid to use O&O defrag on my raid'ed logical drives, because I don't know if it will mess the RAID parity, as the same file is maybe not physically located on the same place on each SATA, moving a cluster in a low access of the drive may destroy the parity (if O&O look for each SATA drives independently instead of a logical created RAID drive).

Has anybody tested O&O defrag with a parity RAID system ?

Or maybe defrag is unnecessary on a RAID5 drive, because all chunk of data are physically located everywhere on the drive (they have slower access than non RAID drive). This is a system working on a fragmentation system, and can't be defragged ?
I'm thinking there's no advantage at all, as the system (windows) is seeing data as "unfragmented" on the logical RAID drive, but the real data on each SATA are fragmented, the physical location of data is managed by the BIOS.
 

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8BitWalugi said:
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or you could install linux and not worry about defragging.
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Why is Linux so great exactly? Or were you being sarcastic... I though Linux was outdated...

It doesn't just plop data anywhere onto the drive, it writes it in sequence.

Also, you think wrong. At this point, Windows is pretty outdated.
 

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8BitWalugi said:
.Radiant said:
or you could install linux and not worry about defragging.
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Why is Linux so great exactly? Or were you being sarcastic... I though Linux was outdated...

i'd hardly say linux is outdated. its practically does a majority of things better than windows depending on the distro besides program compatibility. quite a few games and programs are pretty buggy or don't work at all under linux, though with the programs, there's usually alternatives though they're not as good. to be honest the only thing keeping me on windows are the games and my ipod, if wine improved compatibility with new release games and someone found a way to sync ipod touch's on linux without using a virtual machine, i'd jump on it straight away.
 

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Yea, I've heard Linux doesn't fragment files as much because of its file system and structure.
I used to use O&O defrag until recently. I have since moved on to a program called 'MyDefrag'. It's freeware and I find it far better.
 

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