damn it.. anyone using vga box to play wii on lcd monitors?

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  1. dlxowhd
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    some games just won't work using the xcm 1080p vga box...
    i thought it was weird because they play fine on the tv in my living room.
    then i found out that it's because the vga box doesn't support EHDTV.. which means nearly all game cubes games and some wii games.
    is there any way to patch the iso/games or something so it would support EHDTV???

    this is what i found out on some internet review:
    "I'm covering the Wii separately because unlike the PS3 it is not capable of upscaling (or at least this is not an available feature). This means that games not supporting EHDTV (meaning everything from the virtual console, nearly all if not all GameCube games and some Wii games such as Mario Party 8) will not work with the VGA box (or at least not with a PAL Wii system which outputs 576i). Aside from that EHDT works perfectly fine with nearly all games and it does look quite nice."
     
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    tried all the force video mode patches and what not?
     
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    i tried video patch in gamma loader..
    and also ntsc and pal mode...
    didn't work..
     
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    The Wii supports 3 video output modes: 480i (NTSC), 576i (PAL) and 480p (EDTV).

    However, there are a some games that don't support progressive scan (480p). They will force the output back to 480i on NTSC consoles or 576i on PAL consoles. Progressive scan isn't supported by a few Wii games, all PAL GameCube games and most Virtual Console games. I think most NTSC GameCube games support 480p, but I could be wrong on that.

    Either your VGA box or your monitor doesn't support interlaced signals. LCDs don't natively support interlaced pictures and modern monitors generally don't need to deal with them, so to save money they don't put in deinterlacing. My VGA box (a cheap no-name one from DealExtreme) seems content to output an interlaced picture, but my monitor gives an 'unsupported input' error. CRT monitors are more likely to support interlacing for technical reasons.

    The difference is that the TV in your living room can show interlaced signals, and it internally deinterlaces them. For Wii games you can try forcing the video mode to 480p, I don't know how useful that is since I've never tried it.

    Edit: ah, I shouldn't spend so long writing posts. Since forcing the video mode didn't work there's not really much that can be done other than use the TV in the living room for those games...
     
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    Yeah I do and have found the same problem. It's just lazy development when it comes to the Wii game I'm afraid. I have a really cheap VGA box that has component and and composite input (I use the Wii through component and Freeview through composite) and also supports interlaced and progressive signals! Not the greatest quality picture though.
     
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    ok so i guess there is absolutely no way unless i buy a new tv for my room?
     
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    My PC's got a composite input, so I just run it through that when I play a game that forces interlacing. There are USB devices around that take a composite input, although they're overpriced they should work. The downside is that you get reduced picture quality. If you do that then you can view it through a program like DScaler.
     

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