Hacking Crown3ds flashcard - Hacking your 3DS and playing 3DS games

[cracker]

I am thinking it is along the line of the N64 carts' CIC chips. There bypassing this was easily done by using boot carts of the required type and/or patched ROMs (manually or on the fly by the backup unit). But it would be more advanced now. This is why I think every title will have its' own embedded circuit/chip to even enable the 3ds ROM to be accessed.

 

[iNFiNiTY]

Yeah now i understand. Not too familiar with N64 but enough to know you needed to use a real cart a lot of the time still for it's chip. That would certainly be a lot of work if it's the case.

Personally i always thought it would be better to be looking at different routes of hacking the 3DS considering it's now got updates, but i'm guessing the reason people go straight for the cartridge is potential for profit.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

I am thinking it is along the line of the N64 carts' CIC chips. There bypassing this was easily done by using boot carts of the required type and/or patched ROMs (manually or on the fly by the backup unit). But it would be more advanced now. This is why I think every title will have its' own embedded circuit/chip to even enable the 3ds ROM to be accessed.

That could definitely be the case, and is something I hadn't thought of before. IIRC though, there weren't that many different N64 CIC chips. It would certainly be impractical for every single 3DS game to have a unique one, I would think...

EDIT: Searching a little, it would seem there were only 5 different CIC chips on the N64.

 

[cracker]

Yeah, in my previous posts I speculated a unique chip for each title so it wouldn't be anything easy to bypass.

 

[midnight1001]

When i first found out about crown3ds i became excited and i beleive this is real. If however this isnt real well then no big deal i didnt preorder it. I dont see the point in preordering something that you dont even know if it has been confirmed working. Me personally am going to hold off getting one of these(if they are real) and see if a cheaper clone or the other teams come up with anything better or at best a flashcart that can contain more then one game at a time... Maybe ill get one when the new mario titles get released but until then ill just be patient...

 

[DespizingU]

ill just be patient...

And that's the best thing to do. One of the major teams will eventually come out with a great cart. I personally see no reason to spend a hundred bucks(or whatever this thing is going for) on something that can only hold one game at a time. Especially if it hasn't even been confirmed to be real.

Sooner or later good carts will start rolling out...

 

[MikeyTaylorGaming]

hmm, i'm intreagued by this, all the wires and circuitry, could be possible that they just linked the the splinter cell cartridge to a board and placed a load of other mumbo jumbo components on it :S

i dont see how it could need all that or how this would be portable!

but then, i'm not a hacker or flashcart developer so i wouldnt know the steps to creating one would i?

EDIT:

Is it more likely they don't have a custom storage chip for the ROMs, and are using a real Splinter Cell ROM with the devboard linked and emulating the security chip. Or was that what you was suggesting

If that is the case then they need to find a rewritable ROM that passes as a real ROM though or work on spoofing it further.

yeah... if i bothered read things

but i wasn't thinking of them even emulating the security chip, i was just thinking they stuck that somewhere on the board from the original cart too hahaha

 

[sychotix]

I think its funny how many people are bashing this because it looks "bulky." Why the hell would you try and optimize your circuitry when you don't even know what the minimum components needed are? Once they have everything working, they will likely minimize the circuitry (if they are smart at least...) and will sell that. Theres no telling how big or small it may get, or if it will have SD capability (although this would be a very good idea for them).

If its a fake, then whatever. We will see when it comes out.

 

[ManFranceGermany]

I thought about this a lot last night and think I might know why only one specific title can run on it. I think there is a chip on 3ds carts or embedded into the chip along with the ROM that is needed to get the security check process started with the ROM itself. So my idea is that this extra chip is being emulated by the circuitry on the dev board or the original chip is hardwired onto the dev board somewhere. It may not be easy to swap out for an end user. So in the end fake signing (or real signing -- yeah right) is tantamount to a viable solution.

no, there is not such a thing.

 

[megavirus1994]

has anyone noticed how the website is still showing 50%??
(the only change is the bottom part saying "contact us via". and that was just in the center now its on the left)

 

[zanfire]

has anyone noticed how the website is still showing 50%??
(the only change is the bottom part saying "contact us via". and that was just in the center now its on the left)

lol maybe they cant actually make it into carts or something. Its been a while since they said this, so you would expect them to be hauling ass to get these to market before anyone else to make so money....maybe they faked it?

 

[pachura]

But still, how popular IS the 3DS actually? Will a flashcart ever become a commercial interesting product? As of right now, I doubt it.

I know many people who will only buy 3DS when it's hacked.

 

[machomuu]

But still, how popular IS the 3DS actually? Will a flashcart ever become a commercial interesting product? As of right now, I doubt it.

I know many people who will only buy 3DS when it's hacked.

And I know many people who will buy it regardless.

 

[sychotix]

But still, how popular IS the 3DS actually? Will a flashcart ever become a commercial interesting product? As of right now, I doubt it.

I know many people who will only buy 3DS when it's hacked.

While true that it being hackable will probably increase sales (at least in the short run) of the 3DS, that does not mean that game developers will want to make games for it. Why spend millions of dollars creating a game that you make little, if any profit due to pirating?

 

[impizkit]

But still, how popular IS the 3DS actually? Will a flashcart ever become a commercial interesting product? As of right now, I doubt it.

I know many people who will only buy 3DS when it's hacked.

I wouldn't know anyone like that

 

[zanfire]

But still, how popular IS the 3DS actually? Will a flashcart ever become a commercial interesting product? As of right now, I doubt it.

I know many people who will only buy 3DS when it's hacked.

While true that it being hackable will probably increase sales (at least in the short run) of the 3DS, that does not mean that game developers will want to make games for it. Why spend millions of dollars creating a game that you make little, if any profit due to pirating?

because the % of people who pirate are nothing compared to who don't...and developers dont go "well lets see how many pirates are out there to determine if we make a game on it" they actually look at how many people have the system. Unless the piracy is rampant and very well known about they could care less.

 

[ManFranceGermany]

has anyone noticed how the website is still showing 50%??
(the only change is the bottom part saying "contact us via". and that was just in the center now its on the left)

so?
I have doubts that u can taker this progress bar serious and even if, do you really believe they add for every new code line and progress 1% to this bar?
I suppose we wont see news before October or November and be sure, that it wont be ready before second quarter 2012.

 

[sychotix]

While true that it being hackable will probably increase sales (at least in the short run) of the 3DS, that does not mean that game developers will want to make games for it. Why spend millions of dollars creating a game that you make little, if any profit due to pirating?

because the % of people who pirate are nothing compared to who don't...and developers dont go "well lets see how many pirates are out there to determine if we make a game on it" they actually look at how many people have the system. Unless the piracy is rampant and very well known about they could care less.

Have you SEEN how bad it got on the DS? lol I have friends that know almost nothing about computers, or pirating, and they have flashcarts for their DS.

 

[impizkit]

While true that it being hackable will probably increase sales (at least in the short run) of the 3DS, that does not mean that game developers will want to make games for it. Why spend millions of dollars creating a game that you make little, if any profit due to pirating?

because the % of people who pirate are nothing compared to who don't...and developers dont go "well lets see how many pirates are out there to determine if we make a game on it" they actually look at how many people have the system. Unless the piracy is rampant and very well known about they could care less.

Have you SEEN how bad it got on the DS? lol I have friends that know almost nothing about computers, or pirating, and they have flashcarts for their DS.

Sorry, but that really doesnt mean anything. Your friends are not the entire world population of gamers. I do get what you are trying to say though.

Edit: Also, the DS was easy to hack where as the 3DS is not going to be so easy long term as far as being fully hacked.

 

[zanfire]

While true that it being hackable will probably increase sales (at least in the short run) of the 3DS, that does not mean that game developers will want to make games for it. Why spend millions of dollars creating a game that you make little, if any profit due to pirating?

because the % of people who pirate are nothing compared to who don't...and developers dont go "well lets see how many pirates are out there to determine if we make a game on it" they actually look at how many people have the system. Unless the piracy is rampant and very well known about they could care less.

Have you SEEN how bad it got on the DS? lol I have friends that know almost nothing about computers, or pirating, and they have flashcarts for their DS.

Sorry, but that really doesnt mean anything. Your friends are not the entire world population of gamers. I do get what you are trying to say though.

Edit: Also, the DS was easy to hack where as the 3DS is not going to be so easy long term as far as being fully hacked.

Also the DS has PLENTY of great games...and still more coming. heck i just downloaded DQM joker 2....and its great...and il do the same for stuff like SMT: devil survivor 2 and kirby mass attack.