1. Veho

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    According to your criteria a product is a failure if the makers can't immediately retire off of the profits :lol:
    We can't talk about Aya-Neo's success (or lack thereof) yet, but the GPD Win is not a side hustle that the GPD team did in their garage to earn some extra cash, handhelds are their core product. The first GPD Win was successful enough to warrant development of further devices (four in total), so it was a success for the company despite the fact it didn't sell millions of units.

    So getting back to my original point, that the device can still be a success even if it doesn't come close to the Switch sales, it's a different device for a different, very small, very particular market and it's not fair to compare the two.
     
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    lol switch selling almost 80 millions comparing to something that sells 4000 units at best obviously its not fair...

    but the way you speak that it is a success one would think it should a couple millions at least and not 4000 units, and you said it yourself they are on the 4 iteration, if they cant live of a product they are on the fourth model yet than i dont see it ever being a staple in the industry, heck i think steam boxes and ouya sold way more units lol.
     
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    Following that logic the iPhone is not successful because it's on its 12th iteration already. If it was successful they wouldn't have to release new models every year :ha:
     
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    lol are you for real? the iphone sells millions and millions of units ...
    if the iphone 12 only sold 5000 units then it would have been a failure...

    what i mean is if a company is already on the 4 model of something and its still selling only 4000 units something isn't very popular or profitable.
     
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    These kind of devices have always interested me. Finally bit the bullet with this generation since I have some spare funds, so I'm looking forward to getting the Win 3. The AYA looks great too though.
     
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    This is niche product for a niche audience. Clearly it is financially worthwhile considering GPD keep on producing these computers, the fact they've generated millions probably puts them in a solid position. Not everything needs to sell millions to be worthwhile.
     
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    That's YOU. Nobody said this product is for everyone and will be as successful as the Switch is. But there obviously is an market for it since way more people bought it even at its current price point than the developer anticipated.
    And no, this whole thread is talking about Aya Neo which in other words mean that GPD Win is no longer the only product on the market anymore. Aya Neo sold out its founder edition way faster than the dev anticipated and the dev said before that they would only think about releasing it overseas if the product is successful in China, which it was.
    That's all the point we are trying to make. Stop making it all about your personal preference.

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    Success in a capitalist market means profit. Nobody would make 4 products for the same series if it was not profitable (win 1, 2, ,3 and Max), and the fact that the current product exceeded crowdfunding goal by 8330%, all means that this product line is successful or it wouldn't have continued.
     
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    you're the one that said it was my personal preference lol, chill. you seem fairly upset that i pointed out what this thing truly is, an overpriced low end tablet
     
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    Yeah, that's what "niche" means.

    The 4000 number is just the Kickstarter/Indiegogo preorders BTW, they also sold through traditional retailers after the launch.

    Point is, the device is successful enough not only to keep the company is business, but to sprout successors too. They wouldn't keep doing it if it wasn't profitable.
     
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    it's not that they loose money here and there, it's that the investors dont get a return until years later, they may drop eventually, you know why youtube networks practically dont exist anymore? because investors were keeping them alive dropping money into them, realized they were never going to be profitable, and stopped supporting them, they do this because on the chance they do end up backing something revolutionary, the profits are massive
     
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    Ninty will sue em
     
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    Consoles succeed because they're specially designed for the form factor. Would be curious to see how Windows holds up on these devices with day to day use from a usability perspective
     
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    you could always configure Steam to both autostart and start in big picture, so you don't really see the desktop and get a console experience
     
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    Good call
     
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    Nobody said anything about being new. It looks almost exactly like a Switch. If you can't see that, go get your eyes checked.
     
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    Honestly, only so many form factor are possible when you want a large screen and controllers
     
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    LOL I'm not upset about what you said about the product, I'm not even supporting or buying it, it's just your repeated refusal to acknowledge facts irked me. All I'm saying is that what you stated about there's no market for this product is laughably wrong because the facts are right in front of your nose yet you are just in denial. You can call it a low end tablet however you want, it doesn't stop a bunch of others from getting it. And I would be pretty impressed with a low end tablet running CP2077 at 30 FPS, but whatever.
     
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    when did i say there was no market? if you had read the entire thread i literally said that i've always wanted a GPD win, but always gawked at the insane price they (still) go for, even if i wanted the first gen
     
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    The Switch design isn't a Nintendo design, I think SEGA and NEO Geo have the one up on that, so anybody can use this design all they want. I just wish that it would have a big screen adapter like the Switch Dock.
     
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    It has a USB-C port, so you can simply use a USB-C -> DP or USB-C -> HDMI cable to connect it to a TV/monitor if you wanted to, just need a $5 cable.
     
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