1. Latiodile

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    yikes that price, already can tell it isn't gonna sell well
     
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    the GPD Win 3 is even more expensive and even multiple times that of new consoles and has already exceeded its crowdfunding goals (8330%). There is a market for such devices.
     
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    yes, but the reason the switch is succeeding is because it's not a $1000 intel atom tablet, i myself have been wanting a gpd win since the first revision but i always sit in awe at the insane price tag it goes for
     
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    that's why it's good to have competition in this market, to bring prices down for consumers. GPD was practically the only one making such devices for years.
     
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    there have been numerous other attempts too, all failed hard because of said prices, and they're still stagnating at "ridiculous"
     
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    yo fuck the nintendo switch

    i want that guys watch
     
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    if your going that far back what about the wiiu gamepad or even better the original Game boy advance? they all had the screen centered and buttons on the sides way before some that lol.heck even psp existed way before.
     
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    But why are you only focusing on those so called failed attempts when someone is repeatedly showing you an equally expensive but wildly successful example that is the GPD 3? The Aya Neo seems to have sold out its first batch within a very short span of time too. I don't see any of those products failing the way you seem to be wishing for.
     
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    i guess it depends on what you consider success, i haven't found any sales data how many did each iteration sold?
     
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    that's the one single example, and the reason the prices are so bloated, if i wanted to pay $700 for an overpriced low end tablet, i'd buy an apple product
     
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    The GPD Win 3 has had about 2300 pledges and they sold 1500 Aya-Neo Founders Editions.
     
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    We shouldn't compare this device with the Switch in terms of pricing or sales. It's not meant to compete with the Switch, and nobody is expecting it to sell that many units, not by a long shot. It's a niche product for a very niche market, people who are looking for such a device will pay the price, people who weren't looking for it won't be swayed, it's not exactly an impulse buy.
    And it can't eally be made to cost much less. Miniaturization is expensive.
    So you can't expect this to sell millions of units, but that doesn't mean it "failed".
     
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    how is that considered sucess? i mean such a low number seems like they made a tiny profit... i wouldnt call it a sucess, heck vita and wiiu were considered failures and they sold 15,9 millions and 13.56 millions respectively.

    even if you told it it sold 100 000 units that is still far from what i would even call sucess...

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    telling me anything that sells 3000 units its a success? i just cant see it that way, its more like a novelty product that some people buy, by that logic you can say the virtual boy was a success, it sold much more and it was a very niche market of people wanting 3d games without color seeing through a crappy visor lol.
     
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    And that would very accurate...if this was a gaming console marketed to every single gamer. But it's not. You can't sit there and compare it to the Switch or Vita or Wii U, because it's not a Switch or Vita or Wii U competitor.

    Again, it's a niche product for a niche audience: people who want a little portable gaming PC they can take wherever. These are NOT devices that are meant to sell "100,000 units" or more, they're devices meant to sell to a small group of people who want a little portable PC.

    Let me put it this way, it's like you're comparing the sales of a hundreds of thousands of dollar sports car to a dinky $20k midsize sedan. They both do the same thing, drive from point A to point B, but the former only sells 200 a year and the other sells a million, so by your logic that sports car was a failure of a product!...but that's not how business works, because the sports car is targeted towards a small niche: people with small penises people who like fancy fast cars, whereas the sedan was marketed towards your everyday driver.

    If the small niche product is able to successfully sell to that niche, then it's 100% a successful product. In fact, GPD has been so successful at selling to their small niche that they were able to make multiple successors, even with their ridiculous price points.
     
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    It's a little different for consoles, their sales numbers are also the entire target market for potential game developers, the fewer units sold the fewer devs are going to risk making games for the platform.

    Aya-Neo is a PC, the game library won't be affected by the number of units sold. There is no fear that devs will drop the platform.

    As far as the company is concerned, if it sells enough units to cover R&D, drum up investor interest for a next project, and buy everyone in the team a brick of coke, the device is a success :tpi:
     
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    sports cars still sell millions of units by the end of their production runs, just because an economic car sells more a sports car is much more expensive therefore even selling millions less units the gross margin makes an hefti profit for the company.

    now selling 3000 units of something that is under 1000$ just doesnt seem good enough imo, those numbers are for someone that sells some homemade product made in some basement and sells to their friends and family and afew more people and not like a real retail product.

    im pretty sure any investor would see the numbers and say meh not worth investing since there is no money at the end of the rainbow.

    call it all you want niche and whatever, 3000 units its not even worth mentioning as a success story, they probably wont even have enough profit to buy a decent car after all that, let alone call it a business, sure they can get even and get afew thousands dollar profit at best.

    For me a success business is something you can live on, which means you can work only on that alone and not need to do another side job to keep going at the end of the month, then sure i would call it a small success since they could live just by doing GPD pcs, but they cant , therefore its just a part time project to gain afew thousands and not a successful business imo, same way i could buy a 3d printer and sell stuff on facebook or whatever and gain afew thousands at the end of the year, but i wouldn't call it a successful business since i still needed my day job to get by.
     
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    investors are willing to drop money into pits if it means future profits, just look at Uber and Spotify, the former still hasnt been profitable, the latter only became profitable towards the end of 2019, keep in mind the service started in 2006
     
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    they have millions of employers and are all over the world, lots of people live working for uber alone, so i would call it a success even if the company looses money here and there, people working for them for years are making a living and the company is expanding, the more you expand the costs get higher, heck uber reached Portugal like a year or 2 ago and we are a small country, so for a company to reach here it needs to be a huge company, if it makes or looses money depends on many things they do behind the curtains, sometimes they do huge investments that take years to make a profit on expansions and deals, they also get charged much less taxes when taking a loss since they are investing in the business and so on.
     
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    I don't see the point of crowfunding this to be honest. If you want a "Not a switch" there are other options available.
     
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    Don't GPD Win consoles have garbage firmware, i.e. not being 60 Hz but instead something like 57 Hz, screen tearing etc?
     
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