some of my 9.4 emunand region swap apps crash, is it safe to use the same method? I mean reinstalling all the updated cia <9.5
Nothing is "Safe" when you play the game of trial and error. It's more safe if you're strictly using EmuNAND, but even then, you'll want a backup.some of my 9.4 emunand region swap apps crash, is it safe to use the same method? I mean reinstalling all the updated cia <9.5
(The bizarre thing is, for what it's worth, that I never updated the NFC module separately. I've only ever updated past 9.2 using the official system updater)just a heads up for people who missed it,yifan_lu, also ran into the "bricked" nfc problem, it seems to stem from using mis-matched title versions, so be very careful when building your region changed systems
I got the same error at first. I did the following:
1. Prepare 3 SD cards with emuNAND:
2. Insert card A and open the eShop. (Log in or create an NNID if you haven't yet)
- Card A has EU emuNAND and a European NNID.
- Card B has EU emuNAND and no NNID
- Card C has JP emuNAND and a Japanese NNID
3. Exit emuNAND and switch to card B
4. Open the eShop on card B. It will fail with an error message.*
5. Switch your 3DS off
6. Insert card C and it should work fine
I still cannot wrap my head around why this happened. Could your nand dump be corrupted in any way ?Extreme important warning: attempting to swap between NAND images in this way is what bricked my New 3DS's NFC. I am moderately well convinced at this point that what happened to me was largely just bad luck, and I'd love to see someone else try it. However, you have been very severely warned.
(The bizarre thing is, for what it's worth, that I never updated the NFC module separately. I've only ever updated past 9.2 using the official system updater)
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While I'm here, I would just like to reiterate AGAIN that there is a clearly defined process people have used to make the eShop work on emuNAND of Old 3DS systems. I've posted it in this thread before, but people seem to keep missing it.
In this example, Feldneger is performing an EU -> JP region change, so replace EU with the source region of your system, and JP with NA. This process has now worked for at least three people on the Old 3DS. Just this morning, it fixed the problem for a user who sent me a PM asking for help.
*Important note about step 4: Power off your 3DS AS SOON AS the eShop fails with an error. If you press A to continue into the eShop, the process will not work, and you will have to start over.
Of course, 9.6 emuNAND is impossible on the New 3DS. However, if you have a hard mod, there is no logical reason why this procedure shouldn't work on sysNAND. After all, emuNAND is just a version of sysNAND that lives on your SD Card.
Extreme important warning: attempting to swap between NAND images in this way is what bricked my New 3DS's NFC. I am moderately well convinced at this point that what happened to me was largely just bad luck, and I'd love to see someone else try it. However, you have been very severely warned.
Anyways the amiibo app seems to crash right as it goes to actually access the NFC device. Tried updating the amiibo app to the version from 9.6, and that solved the crashing but still couldn't read any amiibo.
0004003000009E02 is the title in question for the amiibo settings. The crash log points right to it, but doesn't give me a ton of helpful info haha.
Code:[MP] 2015-04-07 22:29 + PID:0x00040030_00009E02 REV:0060014 AID:0xFFFFFFFF_FFFFFFFF ADR:0x0017EA68 RSL:0xD8E007F7
Edit: Tried installing the NFC module title 0004013020004002 v2053 and after that, amiibo settings would just sit at the loading screen until you shut off the system (It started with 00040130 so yea)
All these issues seem like the types of things that would be solved with an official update. If the 3DS updates work anything like the Wii, it should check for any missing or broken titles. Example: I had deleted every last channel off of my Wii (even the disk channel) and a system update restored everything.
I still cannot wrap my head around why this happened. Could your nand dump be corrupted in any way ?
is there a way to try if nfc is fine without an actual amiibo?
yeah what yifan seemed to imply was that his nand was on 9.2 and he tried to use a app designed for 9.6 (system transfer), and that was what caused the error, not actually updating or not updating the NFC module, but the action of using the newer title that expected to be able to use the 9.3+ nfc module functions.....but as he had never updated the actual NFC functions, that is where something went wrong.........what went wrong idk, but it would seem to be the best advice not to run anything designed for 9.3+ on a 8.1-9.2 n3DS(The bizarre thing is, for what it's worth, that I never updated the NFC module separately. I've only ever updated past 9.2 using the official system updater)
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While I'm here, I would just like to reiterate AGAIN that there is a clearly defined process people have used to make the eShop work on emuNAND of Old 3DS systems. I've posted it in this thread before, but people seem to keep missing it.
In this example, Feldneger is performing an EU -> JP region change, so replace EU with the source region of your system, and JP with NA. This process has now worked for at least three people on the Old 3DS. Just this morning, it fixed the problem for a user who sent me a PM asking for help.
*Important note about step 4: Power off your 3DS AS SOON AS the eShop fails with an error. If you press A to continue into the eShop, the process will not work, and you will have to start over.
Of course, 9.6 emuNAND is impossible on the New 3DS. However, if you have a hard mod, there is no logical reason why this procedure shouldn't work on sysNAND. After all, emuNAND is just a version of sysNAND that lives on your SD Card.
Extreme important warning: attempting to swap between NAND images in this way is what bricked my New 3DS's NFC. I am moderately well convinced at this point that what happened to me was largely just bad luck, and I'd love to see someone else try it. However, you have been very severely warned.
Did you try installing the NFC module listed by yifanlu earlier that was apparently compatible with his console as a middle-ground?That error log is the exact same freaking thing that my 3DS gets whenever I try to open Amiibo settings, as well as ~50% of all other system apps. The difference is, I ONLY get the error on 9.3+, whereas you're getting it on 9.2 (and UPDATING fixed the crash).
Is my NAND dumps are corrupted, then all 5+ of them somehow became corrupted in the exact same way, and at the same time, whereas they all used to work.
It's not just that NFC doesn't work. Whenever you try to open an application/applet which loads the NFC module—which is a much larger list than you would imagine—the 3DS will crash with a black screen error message. You essentially have a semi-bricked system that can't be fixed with a NAND mod.
if you have any sort of NFC card, bust pass, bank card etc, you can go to setup amiibo on the homecreen and put it on, it will just pop up saying "this is not an amiibo", but it will atleast let you know NFC is functioningis there a way to try if nfc is fine without an actual amiibo?
Out of Curiosity, Since you have a nand mod. Have you tried updating to the latest firmware version to see if the NFC module works there ?
if you have any sort of NFC card, bust pass, bank card etc, you can go to setup amiibo on the homecreen and put it on, it will just pop up saying "this is not an amiibo", but it will atleast let you know NFC is functioning
Are you asking me? Yeah, it's broken on 9.4-9.6 (haven't tested 9.3). Everything works on 9.0-9.2, although I don't know if that's because the OS doesn't use/need NFC, or something else.
Somehow or other, that is what must have happened—just, minus the part I crossed out.I was thinking maybe one of the apps you installed could have flashed some new bios or whatever to the NFC modulerendering it incompatible with earlier firmwares.
Steps taken:
So I guess in conclusion, SOMETHING went missing during this whole process, but I have no idea what haha.
- Followed this great guide on page 14, steps 1-14
- Downloaded all the titles from this great list on page 20 (excluding the usual)
- Used BBM to install them all! (Obviously the already existing titles were skipped)
- Used BRM to delete all Japanese files
- Used BBM / 3DNUS to update to 9.5.0U
- System Format just to clean up the home menu
- ???
- PROFIT
Some of the titles in this list, that are not in the exclude list of the guide give me invalid cias errors. Namely those starting with 0004003.
Edit: Removing those, it did fix the keyboard issue. Amazing.
It's not just that NFC doesn't work. Whenever you try to open an application/applet which loads the NFC module—which is a much larger list than you would imagine—the 3DS will crash with a black screen error message. You essentially have a semi-bricked system that can't be fixed with a NAND mod.
Ok so for me everything seems to be in order now.
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I am indeed very upset as you might understand. Well nand mod it is...