Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

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The Chinese government didn't create Covid and suing them for a natural virus is stupid.
Been a few weeks and looks like the anti-vax crowd is still posting garbage.
Perhaps they were hoping they would pay compensation for it, you know like how some people thought that we were going to get Mexico to pay for that shitty wall. :glare:

Everything is easier to target when it has a face. Its much harder to accept the fact that some things are faceless/formless and just exists to make life harder for everyone. But to hell about working together and fighting it, lets instead waste effort to find someone to put blame on it and fill the gap with conspiracy theories.

I wish for the days when not everyone had access to the internet. It caused mind rot to spread faster than the covid virus itself. Idiocracy is looking to be more of a possibility in our reality with each passing year at this point.
 

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Perhaps they were hoping they would pay compensation for it, you know like how some people thought that we were going to get Mexico to pay for that shitty wall. :glare:

Everything is easier to target when it has a face. Its much harder to accept the fact that some things are faceless/formless and just exists to make life harder for everyone. But to hell about working together and fighting it, lets instead waste effort to find someone to put blame on it and fill the gap with conspiracy theories.

I wish for the days when not everyone had access to the internet. It caused mind rot to spread faster than the covid virus itself. Idiocracy is looking to be more of a possibility in our reality with each passing year at this point.
What are you talking bout? We Don't need a Vaccine when I can piss directly in peoples months

Anti-Vax Leader Urges Followers to Drink Their Own Urine to Fight COVID

 
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This is one shit thread I prefer to avoid but I have some questions to ask. Personally I was reluctant to get vaccinated because I didn't want to suffer any side effects but eventually my parents bribed me with an offer I couldn't refuse. At my age being unvaccinated is a very safe risk.

I have a relative living in Europe who is constantly complaining about the coronavirus. On one hand he's an idiot not worth listening to but on the other I find it hard to deny what he's saying. His claims are pretty much the following.

- Over 99% of people make a full recovery
- Everyone will get the coronavirus sooner or later so we should just let it spread
- The state media is scaring everyone into obedience
- Those who cooperated with coronavirus restrictions don't want to accept they were fooled by the government
- The vaccine mandates are unjust and unnecessary
- Everyone who got vaccinated did so only to keep their jobs
- The coronavirus is just another flu
- The coronavirus was made in a lab sponsored by America

What do you have to say about his claims?
 
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most of them are BS is what I have to say. This shit put our healthcare systems on its knees between 2 and 3 times at least in European countries. Many people with unrelated pathologies have been delayed treatment and operations thanks to hospitals being overflown with severe covid cases.
Sure, covid patients survived, but at what cost? Many died, many others died of unrelated things because they could not be treated (thanks to healthcare being completely blocked by this shit)
Peeps want to take any good enough solution, including vaccines, to try and alleviate that so they can have the insurance of there being room to be treated for other things if and when they need to. Let it spread? Sure, see you in 5 waves when the heathcare system will be so dead you can't even get simple treatment for the flu or a broken bone for months at a time, great idea!
It's not just a flu, it spreads fast enough that it made our healthcare suffer, and is still doing so as of this day. When was the last time our healthcare systems in developed countries got so clogged that people died in numbers of completely unrelated things? Most likely eons ago during the last big wars, when wounded were overflowing.

As for where it came from, I don't buy any of this shit, everyone left and right is saying deepshit about that. The thing is: nobody cares, we're all in it now, nobody is getting any respite from it. We'll know the facts someday, but I feel it's better we get all the help we can while we need it, and start pointing fingers like kindergartners when it's finished and we can afford it.

Also, state media doesn't need cvid to spread fear, it has been doing so with many other subjects before, and still is doing: non-existant "woke" threat, insecurity, immigration, and so on. State media (and politicians too) are very good at selling you stories about non-existing deadly enemies that many of us will buy just because it's easier than to put the governments into default. This is neither here nor there though, covid is a worldwide thing that needs to be properly handled (since it cannot be stopped anyway), if we want to have the luxury of stopping the parasites leading our lives and of saving our planet and lives.
 
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This is one shit thread I prefer to avoid but I have some questions to ask. Personally I was reluctant to get vaccinated because I didn't want to suffer any side effects but eventually my parents bribed me with an offer I couldn't refuse. At my age being unvaccinated is a very safe risk.

I have a relative living in Europe who is constantly complaining about the coronavirus. On one hand he's an idiot not worth listening to but on the other I find it hard to deny what he's saying. His claims are pretty much the following.

- Over 99% of people make a full recovery
- Everyone will get the coronavirus sooner or later so we should just let it spread
- The state media is scaring everyone into obedience
- Those who cooperated with coronavirus restrictions don't want to accept they were fooled by the government
- The vaccine mandates are unjust and unnecessary
- Everyone who got vaccinated did so only to keep their jobs
- The coronavirus is just another flu
- The coronavirus was made in a lab sponsored by America

What do you have to say about his claims?
I am glad your parents convinced you get vaccinated and I hope you continue to get your vaccinations.
1: Source
2: Thats a terrible mentality and will only help the virus mutant more. It was a dumb mentality with diseases like chicken pox and it’s even dumber with Covid.
3: That’s literally conspiracy nonsense and the countries that did cooperate with restrictions have far less spread of covid.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/
4: This is an opinion and at this point it’s becoming a dangerous one for countries like the US.
5: this is also an opinion and unprovable one as everyone has their own reasons to get vaccinated and doesn’t matter what those reasons are.
6: no, it is not another flu. The flu is Influenza viruses, Covid is SARS-CoV-2. These are not the same and shouldn’t be considered the same. Their effects on the body are also not the same. This was stupid when Trump said it and it’s stupid that people are still repeating it.
7: Source?
 

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This is one shit thread I prefer to avoid but I have some questions to ask. Personally I was reluctant to get vaccinated because I didn't want to suffer any side effects but eventually my parents bribed me with an offer I couldn't refuse. At my age being unvaccinated is a very safe risk.

I have a relative living in Europe who is constantly complaining about the coronavirus. On one hand he's an idiot not worth listening to but on the other I find it hard to deny what he's saying. His claims are pretty much the following.

- Over 99% of people make a full recovery
- Everyone will get the coronavirus sooner or later so we should just let it spread
- The state media is scaring everyone into obedience
- Those who cooperated with coronavirus restrictions don't want to accept they were fooled by the government
- The vaccine mandates are unjust and unnecessary
- Everyone who got vaccinated did so only to keep their jobs
- The coronavirus is just another flu
- The coronavirus was made in a lab sponsored by America

What do you have to say about his claims?
Yes, all that and more is true and obviously so.
 
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What I love is the double standard provided by this line of thought:

"We don't know the long term effect of covid on your system"

and

"The vaccines are safe and effective. If there were long term effects, we'd know about them by now."

/smokes a cigarette thinking *no side effects so far*

By the time I contract covid, it'll probably be unnoticeable or seem like a weak version of the flu. Or maybe I had it, and can thank not being vaccinated for the easy experience.

Glad I don't have to roll around in a plastic ball anymore. Unfortunately others on this board don't have it so great.
 
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What I love is the double standard provided by this line of thought:

"We don't know the long term effect of covid on your system"

and

"The vaccines are safe and effective. If there were long term effects, we'd know about them by now."

/smokes a cigarette thinking *no side effects so far*

By the time I contract covid, it'll probably be unnoticeable or seem like a weak version of the flu. Or maybe I had it, and can thank not being vaccinated for the easy experience.

Glad I don't have to roll around in a plastic ball anymore. Unfortunately others on this board don't have it so great.
There isn’t a double standard, you just don’t understand how vaccines work and decided your ignorance is fact. Side-effects from vaccines show up a few minutes to a few hours, then only last a few days (at most a week.) Anything longer is typically linked to another pre-existing condition(s.) There aren’t going to be side-effects showing up later on down the road, that’s never happened with vaccines. If I am wrong, show me a source instead of your opinion.
 

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Ignorance about long-term side effects is a fact. Many people form the opinion that there are no (or cannot be) long-term side effects because of that fact. The ignorance of long-term side effects is literally the foundation of the claim.

Here's another. Numbers corroborate when targeting the desired outcome, but correlation does not imply causation when the implication is uncomfortable.
 

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Ignorance about long-term side effects is a fact. Many people form the opinion that there are no (or cannot be) long-term side effects because of that fact. The ignorance of long-term side effects is literally the foundation of the claim.

Here's another. Numbers corroborate when targeting the desired outcome, but correlation does not imply causation when the implication is uncomfortable.
That sure looks like a source debunking what said. If there were any “long-term side-effects” they would have shown up a long time ago because side-effects of vaccines don’t just show up randomly months to years down the road.
 

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I am glad your parents convinced you get vaccinated and I hope you continue to get your vaccinations.
1: Source
2: Thats a terrible mentality and will only help the virus mutant more. It was a dumb mentality with diseases like chicken pox and it’s even dumber with Covid.
3: That’s literally conspiracy nonsense and the countries that did cooperate with restrictions have far less spread of covid.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/
4: This is an opinion and at this point it’s becoming a dangerous one for countries like the US.
5: this is also an opinion and unprovable one as everyone has their own reasons to get vaccinated and doesn’t matter what those reasons are.
6: no, it is not another flu. The flu is Influenza viruses, Covid is SARS-CoV-2. These are not the same and shouldn’t be considered the same. Their effects on the body are also not the same. This was stupid when Trump said it and it’s stupid that people are still repeating it.
7: Source?
Source to number 1 is based off numbers found on worldometer. The death rate percentage sits at 1.53% and is likely much lower due to asymptomatic people not getting tested or people just quarantining and never getting tested. Not 99% recovery but pretty close
 

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That sure looks like a source debunking what said. If there were any “long-term side-effects” they would have shown up a long time ago because side-effects of vaccines don’t just show up randomly months to years down the road.
You claimed that ignorance of side effects is not a fact. That's a false claim. I don't think anything would be random in relationship to side-effects, and if pharmaceutical companies would investigate themselves to find problems with their own products--that'd be a bigger surprise to me.

"Correlation does not imply causation" is the wonderful go-to logic when it comes to hand-waving away any claim of side-effects. Except correlation implies causation when it comes to corroborating the product-positive side of things.

It's not "science". It's marketing.
 
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Source to number 1 is based off numbers found on worldometer. The death rate percentage sits at 1.53% and is likely much lower due to asymptomatic people not getting tested or people just quarantining and never getting tested. Not 99% recovery but pretty close
The issue is “full recovery” because that’s not what’s recorded, only a recovery is recorded. That does not record those who are dealing with long-term damages from Covid nor other complicated recoveries. That’s the problem with using that statistic, it’s not clear to the additional damages caused by Covid.
 

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Source to number 1 is based off numbers found on worldometer. The death rate percentage sits at 1.53% and is likely much lower due to asymptomatic people not getting tested or people just quarantining and never getting tested. Not 99% recovery but pretty close
1.53% of the American population is over 5 million people. Globally, 1.53% is almost 121 million people.

You claimed that ignorance of side effects is not a fact. That's a false claim. I don't think anything would be random in relationship to side-effects, and if pharmaceutical companies would investigate themselves to find problems with their own products--that'd be a bigger surprise to me.

"Correlation does not imply causation" is the wonderful go-to logic when it comes to hand-waving away any claim of side-effects. Except correlation implies causation when it comes to corroborating the product-positive side of things.

It's not "science". It's marketing.
There is no evidence of long term side effects from the COVID-19 vaccines. Across the board, there has been no increase in the frequency of any medical condition that hasn't already been associated with something else (COVID-19, for example).

There is ample evidence that the vaccines significantly reduce the risks of illness, the spread of illness, long-term side effects from COVID-19, hospitalization, death, etc.

Tabzer, you are an idiot. You are an idiot to believe vaccines have or are likely to have long-term side effects when you have no evidence demonstrating this to be true, and you have ample evidence demonstrating this to not be true. You are gullible, you are foolish, and you don't understand what it means to be rational. Your anti-vax posts are irrational, unintelligent, incompetent, and immoral. I fully believe there is nothing anyone could say to change your mind, which shows just how little you care about the truth of the matter. Whenever someone asks you to provide evidence of your claims, you shamelessly ignore their requests and continue to spout anti-vax nonsense. Your posts are undeserving of anyone's attention, and for the literal sake of people's lives, I hope they pay little if any attention to your posts.
 

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Tabzer, you are an idiot. You are an idiot to believe vaccines have or are likely to have long-term side effects when you have no evidence demonstrating this to be true, and you have ample evidence demonstrating this to not be true. You are gullible, you are foolish, and you don't understand what it means to be rational. Your anti-vax posts are irrational, unintelligent, incompetent, and immoral. I fully believe there is nothing anyone could say to change your mind, which shows just how little you care about the truth of the matter. Whenever someone asks you to provide evidence of your claims, you shamelessly ignore their requests and continue to spout anti-vax nonsense. Your posts are undeserving of anyone's attention, and for the literal sake of people's lives, I hope they pay little if any attention to your posts.

Put the strawman down for a bit, Lacius. If you want to argue against something I said instead of throwing your baggage around, please feel free. This is what you resort to when you don't get your way, and that's not surprising.

If you want to conclude that vaccines don't have side effects based on ignorance surrounding it, that's your prerogative. I suspend my belief either way. If those who have made and marketed the vaccine cannot demonstrate full understanding of how the vaccine works, it is unreasonable to me to accept "their" conclusive claims about it.

You cannot say "safe and effective" without 20 asterisks and hundreds of pages of fine print (including changes to definitions, government policies, and extended mandates). It's not "anti-vax" by pointing this out. I'm actually complementing your overzealousness with a dose of objectivity.
 

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The issue is “full recovery” because that’s not what’s recorded, only a recovery is recorded. That does not record those who are dealing with long-term damages from Covid nor other complicated recoveries. That’s the problem with using that statistic, it’s not clear to the additional damages caused by Covid.
That’s true. I didn’t catch the “fully recover” on his post. I know someone who got it in March of 2020 and he’s still dealing with shortness of breath
 
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