Covid-19 vaccine

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I admit it, I'm only just lying to have you unbelievers killed and absorbed into our great hive mind. Speaking of, I should go get my £1,000,000 check tomorrow, it's time I got paid for that.
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Johnson & Johnson's Business Lead, Brandon Schadt, and Johnson & Johnson's scientist, Justin Durant, stated their thoughts on the vaccine and were filmed with a hidden cam:


What do you think about it?
I think this still doesn’t fit the request of a peer-reviewed paper and is just conspiracy garbage

Well it's either that or the mainstream media constantly telling the people flat out lies if that's your logic.
That’s fine, I don’t care about the mainstream media, I only care about peer-reviewed paper. It’s amazing how we still haven’t seen one backing up any of the anti-vac claims or fears.
 
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I admit it, I'm only just lying to have you unbelievers killed and absorbed into our great hive mind. Speaking of, I should go get my £1,000,000 check tomorrow, it's time I got paid for that.
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I think this still doesn’t fit the request of a peer-reviewed paper and is just conspiracy garbage
That’s fine, I don’t care about the mainstream media, I only care about peer-reviewed paper. It’s amazing how we still haven’t seen one backing up any of the anti-vac claims or fears.

Not peer reviewed: Pfizer's 6-month follow up to their ongoing phase 3 clinical trial finds higher mortality in the vaccinated group (20 vs 14, page 6 paragraph 3).

Peer reviewed: meta-analysis of 45 peer reviewed IVM studies shows 70% efficacy.
 

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Not peer reviewed: Pfizer's 6-month follow up to their ongoing phase 3 clinical trial finds higher mortality in the vaccinated group (20 vs 14, page 6 paragraph 3).

Peer reviewed: meta-analysis of 45 peer reviewed IVM studies shows 70% efficacy.
I appreciate this post but I am looking for peer-reviewed research that shows vaccines are harmful and or backing up the belief that they aren’t a necessity. The research shown here still shows that they are still more effective than not having been vaccinated and still haven’t shown any reason to be concerned about the possible side-effects. I am currently trying to get those against the vaccine to provide evidence against the reasons
 

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yes... its either 99% of World Governments, all the (legit) Medical field. all Those People vs Project Veritas and a UPS manger...and a Nurse that had a questionible Work History and who also just happen to get 200k right after appearing on video (but ...TRUST ME its not a Bribe??)
So I guess if someone with common sense told you putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would kill you but if the media said putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would grand you eternal life and riches, you'd still believe the media and do it?
 

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I appreciate this post but I am looking for peer-reviewed research that shows vaccines are harmful and or backing up the belief that they aren’t a necessity. The research shown here still shows that they are still more effective than not having been vaccinated and still haven’t shown any reason to be concerned about the possible side-effects. I am currently trying to get those against the vaccine to provide evidence against the reasons

Supposedly this is peer reviewed for appearing in "Trends in Internal Medicine", which claims to be "an international, open-access peer-reviewed, journal".

Technically, Pfizer's phase 3 clinical trial hasn't been fully peer-reviewed yet as it's still ongoing -- completion date: May 2, 2023.

It seems Pfizer have completed the primary efficacy endpoint but not the safety endpoint:
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine said:
Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE today announced that, after conducting the final efficacy analysis in their ongoing Phase 3 study, their mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine candidate, BNT162b2, met all of the study’s primary efficacy endpoints...The trial will continue to collect efficacy and safety data in participants for an additional two years.

I don't understand why FDA didn't leave it under EUA until phase 3 is complete.

Pfizer has shown their product reduces Covid hospitalisations (but not necessarily all-cause hospitalisations). This is counterintuitive because if it reduces hospitalisation, and hospitalisation correlates to mortality, then shouldn't it reduce mortality as well?

Apparently Pfizer are working on an antiviral drug which may use similar mechanism to IVM.
 
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So I guess if someone with common sense told you putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would kill you but if the media said putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would grand you eternal life and riches, you'd still believe the media and do it?
And I guess if the Dr and scientist tell you to take a life saving vaccine to save humanity.. you would point a gun to you head instead… wait… it’s not a hypothetical it’s real life
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Supposedly this is peer reviewed for appearing in "Trends in Internal Medicine", which claims to be "an international, open-access peer-reviewed, journal".

Technically, Pfizer's phase 3 clinical trial hasn't been fully peer-reviewed yet as it's still ongoing -- completion date: May 2, 2023.

It seems Pfizer have completed the primary efficacy endpoint but not the safety endpoint:


I don't understand why FDA didn't leave it under EUA until phase 3 is complete.

Pfizer has shown their product reduces Covid hospitalisations (but not necessarily all-cause hospitalisations). This is counterintuitive because if it reduces hospitalisation, and hospitalisation correlates to mortality, then shouldn't it reduce mortality as well?

Apparently Pfizer are working on an antiviral drug which may use similar mechanism to IVM.
Considering the site it’s tethered to is literally a conspiracy site and J. Bart Classen is known for publishing easily debunked crap, I wouldn’t consider anything on that site be considered a resource. It’s worth noting that don’t think that paper was properly peer-reviewed. As for the rest, imma be honest and say I need to read more into that all at a later time cause I am bit busy. It looks interesting though and an interesting note, my wife is part of one of the research studies, so that’s really neat.
 

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And you didn't answer my question.
You mean I didn’t answer your complete asinine hypothesis? Sorry I usually don’t play Paper fortune teller, or [email protected]$k marry kill, I’m not in middle school. Your demented paranoia of 99% of the medical field trying to kill you with a vaccine.. that 2billion have already taken.. is a testament to the grand delusion installed in the right by the old world powers Desperately clinging onto power any way they can (fear) .. fear of Communism, the replacement theory and fear bedrocks of cultural beliefs would be dismantled… you sir don’t realize you’re the villain that tries to stop change and demand we keep the old ways… in the Cinema of life..
 
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So I guess if someone with common sense told you putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would kill you but if the media said putting a loaded gun to your head and pulling the trigger would grand you eternal life and riches, you'd still believe the media and do it?
You're the only person who believes this to be a serious question. You're also the only person to believe any of those people you link either have common sense or qualifications to have a deeper understanding of the topic they're talking about. The problem is that it's easy to demonstrate their understanding of the topic is outright wrong.

The comparison is not with the media telling anyone to kill themselves and some random underdog messiah telling anyone to not kill themselves, the reality is the media is telling everyone to take a vaccine for protection that has massive amounts of evidence to be safe and a bunch of people screaming that the media is trying to kill them without a single shred of credible evidence between them. And you believe them. You eat that shit right up like it's a five course gourmet meal.

You believe random employees of a company that have nothing to do with the actual vaccine or science side over people like Fauci who have a 40y history of working intimately with health care issues and patients, particularly Fauci who was on the Frontline of the ebola outbreak and treated people himself instead of just sitting back and only letting his underlings handle it. Dude has gotten his hands dirty and put himself into harms way to help when he could have just not. But for some reason he has less credibility on matters of medicine in your eyes than a logistics manager for a company whose only involvement in healthcare was moving crates of medicine.

The media you consume is telling you that the other side is asking everyone else to put a gun to their heads, and only your media is telling you that you are smart enough to not listen to the other side.
 
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Not peer reviewed: Pfizer's 6-month follow up to their ongoing phase 3 clinical trial finds higher mortality in the vaccinated group (20 vs 14, page 6 paragraph 3).

Peer reviewed: meta-analysis of 45 peer reviewed IVM studies shows 70% efficacy.
ACTUALLY, while the meta analysis of your link is interesting, it also takes some questionable liberties with its selections of data and is NOT a reputable source, as it stems from the FLCCC (Front Line Covid Critical Care) Alliance. For those not in the know, the FLCCC Alliance is headed by two physicians who've been dunked on pretty hard in their careers, and have chased alternative remedies for the right. They're responsible for the "Wonder Drug" comment regarding Ivermectin, and despite being reprimanded for their behaviors even outside of the pandemic for things like peddling addictive drugs to non-patients for cash, they continue to seek prosperity via ignorance and desperation.
 
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According to a new Trafalgar Group poll, the vast, bipartisan majority of American voters oppose vaccine mandates for American workers.

The poll, conducted in partnership with the Convention of States Action from September 17 to 19, included responses from 1097 likely voters.

https://humanevents.com/2021/09/29/...e-their-jobs-if-they-object-to-covid-vaccine/

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When I decide to stop being lazy I can find where Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Fauci all said the Government should not be mandating vaccines that it's not their role, yet here we are. Biden and Harris spoke against the vaccine in general when Trump was President.
 
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According to a new Trafalgar Group poll, the vast, bipartisan majority of American voters oppose vaccine mandates for American workers.

The poll, conducted in partnership with the Convention of States Action from September 17 to 19, included responses from 1097 likely voters.

https://humanevents.com/2021/09/29/...e-their-jobs-if-they-object-to-covid-vaccine/

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When I decide to stop being lazy I can find where Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Fauci all said the Government should not be mandating vaccines that it's not their role, yet here we are. Biden and Harris spoke against the vaccine in general when Trump was President.
Wouldn't put much stock into that poll due to the history of the group who made the poll, and the fact that most other polls are in favor of the vaccine mandate and the consequences of not getting vaccinated.

The group that made the poll: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafalgar_Group

Some other polls:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/354983/majority-supports-biden-covid-vaccine-mandates.aspx
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrew...-mandates-broadly-popular-despite-gop-outcry/
 

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According to a new Trafalgar Group poll, the vast, bipartisan majority of American voters oppose vaccine mandates for American workers.

The poll, conducted in partnership with the Convention of States Action from September 17 to 19, included responses from 1097 likely voters.

https://humanevents.com/2021/09/29/...e-their-jobs-if-they-object-to-covid-vaccine/

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When I decide to stop being lazy I can find where Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Fauci all said the Government should not be mandating vaccines that it's not their role, yet here we are. Biden and Harris spoke against the vaccine in general when Trump was President.
oh thats cute you find...***1*** ..
heres a whole bunch
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When I decide to stop being lazy I can find where Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Fauci all said the Government should not be mandating vaccines that it's not their role, yet here we are. Biden and Harris spoke against the vaccine in general when Trump was President.
.yes Vaccine mandates.. I hope you don't have any Vaccines shot in your life... because if you ever went to school in the US. You would need about 6-9 depending on the STATE to attend school.. and if you and your family did not object to THOSE Vaccines it might looks like your just political motivated to stir the pot. instead of actually worried bout the Vaccine it self.. and Heck some real AntiVaccine would call you a Hypocrite or already have tainted blood because your chicken pox, rubella or Hep c
 

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Alright, I come in here and do this once in a while, so I'll do it again.

First, the fun fact: There is nothing in the constitution preventing the government from mass mandating vaccination and masks. Shut the heck up.

So to sum it all up:

Vaccine = Good
Mask = Good
Republicans = Stupid, and have this burning passion that Trump won the election. False data, stupid theories, and no brains.
Democrats = Stupid, and have a lot going on to where they've come full circle and become the thing they sought to destroy. Correct data, no theories, and potential brains.

Politics are 100% stupid. It's seriously two sides of people fighting over dumb stuff. Can we get some Australian election into the mix where there's a third candidate of like the Green Party? That way we could have a three way divide, where there's more to discuss than "one side hates this."

Pretty much @Lacius and @djpannda have been spreading the truth. Vaccines aren't harmful.

Look, I hate needles as much as the next guy, but can we all agree it's for a good cause? The vaccine may not be a cure, but it does a pretty darn good job of keeping people a little safer. Like if you get a flu shot, you can get the flu, but it won't be as bad as an unvaccinated person.



Disproving conspiracy theories:


Government tracking: You are reading this on something where you are being tracked. Seriously, a connection to the internet can and will be traced by the government, just to make sure you're safe. Microchips still aren't small enough to fit a tracker in with a network card and some sensors, and still fit in a tiny needle.\

Autism: How in the shite can someone get a genetic disease from a vaccine. Like, it isn't even contagious. It can't cause a mutation, and there are no factual articles proving it.

Government mind control (American Exclusive): We aren't North Korea. There's a lot in America to be happy about. We have some freedoms that other countries do not, but it is overshadowed by all of the fighting between two dysfunctional sides.

Vaccines make you infertile: Fertility? That's what you're worried about? We are in a global pandemic where close contact spreads the disease, and you're worried about... fertility? The vaccine causing infertility has been disproven, as COVID doesn't affect the balls, and the vaccine help the immune system, not the reproductive system.
 

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Alright, I come in here and do this once in a while, so I'll do it again.

First, the fun fact: There is nothing in the constitution preventing the government from mass mandating vaccination and masks. Shut the heck up.

So to sum it all up:

Vaccine = Good
Mask = Good
Republicans = Stupid, and have this burning passion that Trump won the election. False data, stupid theories, and no brains.
Democrats = Stupid, and have a lot going on to where they've come full circle and become the thing they sought to destroy. Correct data, no theories, and potential brains.

Politics are 100% stupid. It's seriously two sides of people fighting over dumb stuff. Can we get some Australian election into the mix where there's a third candidate of like the Green Party? That way we could have a three way divide, where there's more to discuss than "one side hates this."

Pretty much @Lacius and @djpannda have been spreading the truth. Vaccines aren't harmful.

Look, I hate needles as much as the next guy, but can we all agree it's for a good cause? The vaccine may not be a cure, but it does a pretty darn good job of keeping people a little safer. Like if you get a flu shot, you can get the flu, but it won't be as bad as an unvaccinated person.



Disproving conspiracy theories:


Government tracking: You are reading this on something where you are being tracked. Seriously, a connection to the internet can and will be traced by the government, just to make sure you're safe. Microchips still aren't small enough to fit a tracker in with a network card and some sensors, and still fit in a tiny needle.\

Autism: How in the shite can someone get a genetic disease from a vaccine. Like, it isn't even contagious. It can't cause a mutation, and there are no factual articles proving it.

Government mind control (American Exclusive): We aren't North Korea. There's a lot in America to be happy about. We have some freedoms that other countries do not, but it is overshadowed by all of the fighting between two dysfunctional sides.

Vaccines make you infertile: Fertility? That's what you're worried about? We are in a global pandemic where close contact spreads the disease, and you're worried about... fertility? The vaccine causing infertility has been disproven, as COVID doesn't affect the balls, and the vaccine help the immune system, not the reproductive system.

Butbutbut... what about 5g? The headaches are just the beginning, once those towers turn on, it will actively implant commands from the government into our brains! Once they turn on... we'll all... love... Biden... and buy... every copy of... Michelle Obama's book ever... :rofl:
 

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Butbutbut... what about 5g? The headaches are just the beginning, once those towers turn on, it will actively implant commands from the government into our brains! Once they turn on... we'll all... love... Biden... and buy... every copy of... Michelle Obama's book ever... :rofl:
AHHH, 5G just burned Michelle Obama's books into the very fiber of my brain!
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I got the Pfizer last month and my arm still gets sore sometimes especially when I use the muscle on the jabbed arm. I regret it.
 
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