Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

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I am a man of science and I decided to get the vaccine the moment it was available to my age group and I now have both doses. We don't know the long term side effects of the vaccine same as we don't know the long term side effects of covid itself, we can only go on data of previous coronaviruses. I think many people have the misconception that vaccines stop you from getting the particular disease they are vaccinating against but that isn't the case, you can still get it but it tends to be less severe. I have known young and healthy people who have contracted covid and ended up in hospital, some have regrettably died. The virus changes little bits about itself as it jumps from person to person and then we end up with newer more efficient strains, if we can make it more difficult for the virus to keep jumping and changing then we can rid ourselves of the risk of the virus. I understand people's apprehension as vaccines are normally tested for a much longer time but I believe the benefits outweigh the risks in this case. The planet is too overpopulated anyway so meh either way really. Fuck anti-vaxers in general though.
 

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There’s a lot of people who are anti-vac in this thread and have been open about being anti-vac outside of this thread. I am not tagging them because I am not going to give them that attention but just scrolling back a little will reveal them.
The normal for me, are there any peer-reviewed papers showing that the Covid vaccine is unsafe? Is there any peer-reviewed papers showing that vaccines in general are harmful enough to warrant avoiding them?

There are now 141 pages. Who is anti-vaccine?
Can you post one example?

Since the thread is about COVID, most people who are opposed to mandatory COVID vaccine are simply anti-mandate for unvetted vaccine. They still believe in the efficacy of older, time tested vaccines.
Before this COVID politicization, there were actual "anti-vaxxers" who rejected all vaccines.

To group those who reject this specific vaccine in with people who reject all vaccines is intellectually dishonest.

I understand people's apprehension as vaccines are normally tested for a much longer.....Fuck anti-vaxers in general though.

This is both equivocation and a categorical error.
Opposition against COVID vax mandate =/= being anti-vaccine.
Just like being anti-bath salts =/= anti-drug.
 
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There are now 141 pages. Who is anti-vaccine?
Can you post one example?

Since the thread is about COVID, most people who are opposed to mandatory COVID vaccine are simply anti-mandate for unvetted vaccine. They still believe in the efficacy of older, time tested vaccines.
Before this COVID politicization, there were actual "anti-vaxxers" who rejected all vaccines.

To group those who reject this specific vaccine in with people who reject all vaccines is intellectually dishonest.
I just stated that I won’t give them that attention and I am sticking to that statement. There’s literally posts by some members who claim shit like “their doctor told them not to take it,” or “they’ve never been vaccinated and won’t change that.” I am not going to quote to tag them because I am not about to waste my time on them again.
As for the “against mandates” argument, most of those have been included with extremely stupid nonsense as well, including saying they won’t get vaccinated based entirely on garbage. I have been part of this thread for months now and I’ve only seen a large amount of misinformation and nonsense those against getting vaccinated or those against “mandatory vaccinations.” In all honestly, I am starting to believe that phrase is just a nonsense phrase to pretend to have some moral or logical high ground
 
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There are now 141 pages. Who is anti-vaccine?
Can you post one example?

Since the thread is about COVID, most people who are opposed to mandatory COVID vaccine are simply anti-mandate for unvetted vaccine. They still believe in the efficacy of older, time tested vaccines.
Before this COVID politicization, there were actual "anti-vaxxers" who rejected all vaccines.

To group those who reject this specific vaccine in with people who reject all vaccines is intellectually dishonest.



This is both equivocation and a categorical error.
Opposition against COVID vax mandate =/= being anti-vaccine.
Just like being anti-bath salts =/= anti-drug.
I was speaking about anti-vaxxers in general. Not people not wanting the covid vaccine.
 

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I was speaking about anti-vaxxers in general. Not people not wanting the covid vaccine.

Please be more explicit about this, since Lilith is trying to argue (poorly) that there is no difference.

In all honestly, I am starting to believe that phrase is just a nonsense phrase to pretend to have some moral or logical high ground
 

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Please be more explicit about this, since Lilith is trying to argue (poorly) that there is no difference.
I mean my intention was pretty obvious to be fair... I understand the apprehension but I don't agree with it. I think people should get the vaccine but I don't think any government should force anyone to have it. I feel it's more of a moral obligation to have it, but if you don't want it it's your choice. I just think it makes you (not you personally, people in general) a bit of a twat if you don't get it tbh.
 
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I mean my intention was pretty obvious to be fair... I understand the apprehension but I don't agree with it. I think people should get the vaccine but I don't think any government should force anyone to have it. I feel it's more of a moral obligation to have it, but if you don't want it it's your choice. I just think it makes you (not you personally, people in general) a bit of a twat if you don't get it tbh.

You're entitled to that opinion.
Live and let live.
 
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US Armed Forces are supposedly now being mandated to be vaccinated by Dec 15th. First off, why Dec 15th? Why a three month window for them to all possibly contract and spread? Secondly, is this going to be an actual vaccine mandate? Or another fake ass "mandate" like the 100+ workers one - which is actually more of a testing mandate. Not a vaccine mandate.

Edit: Becasue, it's extremely unlikely they are going to do weekly tests on every service menber that doesn't want the vaccine. I call another bullshit mandate where neither the vaccine OR tests are going to be actually widely mandated.
 
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Please be more explicit about this, since Lilith is trying to argue (poorly) that there is no difference.
Considering my involvement in this thread for several months now, I take umbrage at this statement. If you haven't been involved in the conversations that I've been involved in, then your input isn't welcome. My comments were not directed at you, they've been directed at the same individuals that come to this thread with their ill-informed opinions on vaccines and lack of sources. If you aren't willing to find the specific conversations I am referring to, then that's on you but that doesn't mean I need to go out of my way to include you in those conversations. They are public, they are in this thread, you can find them and make yourself involved.
 
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Considering my involvement in this thread for several months now, I take umbrage at this statement. If you haven't been involved in the conversations that I've been involved in, then your input isn't welcome. My comments were not directed at you, they've been directed at the same individuals that come to this thread with their ill-informed opinions on vaccines and lack of sources. If you aren't willing to find the specific conversations I am referring to, then that's on you but that doesn't mean I need to go out of my way to include you in those conversations. They are public, they are in this thread, you can find them and make yourself involved.

There's an ignore button for a reason.
If you don't want public replies to your post, don't make a public post.
 

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There's an ignore button for a reason.
If you don't want public replies to your post, don't make a public post.
I am not sure if I am misreading your posts of if you don’t understand how the ignore feature works. I am fine with having public posts, that’s how I ended up with over 20K posts. My issue was that my post was very specifically towards those against either this vaccine or vaccines in general. Asking for specific details in regards of who it’s directed at isn’t relevant to that post. There are specific members who have expressed anti-vac views throughout this thread but my post wasn’t just limited to those members. My post is open to anyone willing to provide creditable sources to back up either being against the Covid vaccine or against vaccines in general. Asking me for specific members or pages is just a waste of everyone’s time and not relevant to my post. The post you specifically replied to was also not relevant to my original question.
 

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I am not sure if I am misreading your posts of if you don’t understand how the ignore feature works. I am fine with having public posts, that’s how I ended up with over 20K posts. My issue was that my post was very specifically towards those against either this vaccine or vaccines in general. Asking for specific details in regards of who it’s directed at isn’t relevant to that post. There are specific members who have expressed anti-vac views throughout this thread but my post wasn’t just limited to those members. My post is open to anyone willing to provide creditable sources to back up either being against the Covid vaccine or against vaccines in general. Asking me for specific members or pages is just a waste of everyone’s time and not relevant to my post. The post you specifically replied to was also not relevant to my original question.

If you ignore my posts, you won't be triggered by them :teach:
You're also welcome to DM members so I can't reply :creep:

So many options, and they all fall upon you.
 
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If you ignore my posts, you won't be triggered by them :teach:
You're also welcome to DM members so I can't reply :creep:

So many options, and they all fall upon you.

As an alternative, you could choose to not be a troll? Between the two threads you've jumped into so far, I can't help but feel like you might just be instigating for the thrill of it, which speaks ill of the quality of your character... but by all means, if you want to make a toxic mire around your posts, keep it up.
 

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Nothing shouts,"I'm beautiful," louder than the pretentiousness of a self-appointed moral authority.

Right, comrade?

I'd like to think my being pretty has nothing to do with cautioning folk about their flaunting obvious moral failings, but hey, maybe they're related! Since you're here, though...

Just here to take a roll call. Who supports Israel giving out a fourth dose of the "vaccine"?

@Lacius
@Dakitten
@LinkmstrYT
@Foxi4
@Lilith Valentine
@Whoever I forgot.

If you want to borg yourself "for science", maybe you should go on over there and be apart of the progressive "not an experiment" experiment.

This does seem like a good example of Anti-Vax rhetoric recently posted! It is nice to have examples come forth when requested~
 
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