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Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

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tabzer

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no.. no were right the first time... its side effects are similar to the FLU shot

Around 2%
and Im pretty sure DR are telling people to report any symptoms at all and follow up .. because its a new shot... (I wouldn't be surprised if most were flu like symptoms that would of been dismissed if it was the Reg Flu shot but they are double checking because it was new...

THANK TABZER, you are right people are blowing the Vaccine scare out of proportion as it is just as safe as the FLU shot.

"2 percent of people who get a flu shot will have fever as a side effect,"

The case of needing hospitalization is not common enough to register.

I'm pretty sure Doctors are being cautious about the COVID-19 vaccine, but at the same time everybody knows it was rushed and a estimated risk to do so. That's why this is even a topic.
 
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"2 percent of people who get a flu shot will have fever as a side effect,"

The case of needing hospitalization is not common enough to register.

I'm pretty sure Doctors are being cautious about the COVID-19 vaccine, but at the same time everybody knows it was rushed and a estimated risk to do so. That's why this is even a topic.

how was it rushed when it was built on the back of 10+ years of SARS-COV research?

you forget that SARS and MERS happened in 2002, and 2012, are very closely related, and partially constructed vaccines were made for both by 2015.
 
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I am pretty sure,someone can answer all these Questions for me please:

What are the side effects ?
What does vaccination mean for allergy sufferers ?
Is the vaccination genetically modified or not ?
Can a vaccinated person be a vector ?
Is the vaccination just so that the process is dampened ?
Am I exempt from all restrictions when I am vaccinated ?

Thank you.:)

By the Way,someone remember the "Thalidomide Story ?"
 
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I am pretty sure,someone can answer all these Questions for me please:

What are the side effects ?
What does vaccination mean for allergy sufferers ?
Is the vaccination genetically modified or not ?
Can a vaccinated person be a vector ?
Is the vaccination just so that the process is dampened ?
Am I exempt from all restrictions when I am vaccinated ?

Thank you.:)

i can tackle most of these.

What are the side effects ?

sore arm, mild fever, mild headaches, nothing worse than getting any other vaccine

What does vaccination mean for allergy sufferers ?

you will be asked to wait at the Dr's or pharmacy for 10-30 post injection to prevent any allergic reaction. in the case of anaphylaxis, an epipen will be used.

Is the vaccination genetically modified or not ?

no, full stop.

here is a video:

tldw: mrna (from the virus) is used so your body will make the spikes that the virus uses, but without the virus. your body will recognize the spikes and remember them for when the immune system sees them later. this allows a very strong immune response leading to asymptomatic infections instead of potentially deadly infections.

Can a vaccinated person be a vector ?

yes, the vaccine keeps your from getting deadly complication of SARS-COV-2 (covid-19), but you will most likely be an asymptomatic vector. this is why large usage of the vaccine is important.

Is the vaccination just so that the process is dampened ?
Keeping the total number of hospitalized people low is the goal

Am I exempt from all restrictions when I am vaccinated ?


you will still need to follow all standard social distancing and safety requirements. this is because you can still be infectious with no symptoms.

with respect to thalidomide, that is a full drug that had problems during early trimester pregnancies, unlike drugs, a vaccine is training your immune system, and has nothing in it that would cause systemic problems.

also as a note, phased clinical trials were created after the thalidomide incident, and both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have passed all 3 phases of their clinical trials.
 
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i can tackle most of these.

What are the side effects ?

sore arm, mild fever, mild headaches, nothing worse than getting any other vaccine

What does vaccination mean for allergy sufferers ?

you will be asked to wait at the Dr's or pharmacy for 10-30 post injection to prevent any allergic reaction. in the case of anaphylaxis, an epipen will be used.

Is the vaccination genetically modified or not ?

no, full stop.

here is a video:

tldw: mrna (from the virus) is used so your body will make the spikes that the virus uses, but without the virus. your body will recognize the spikes and remember them for when the immune system sees them later. this allows a very strong immune response leading to asymptomatic infections instead of potentially deadly infections.

Can a vaccinated person be a vector ?

yes, the vaccine keeps your from getting deadly complication of SARS-COV-2 (covid-19), but you will most likely be an asymptomatic vector. this is why large usage of the vaccine is important.

Is the vaccination just so that the process is dampened ?
Keeping the total number of hospitalized people low is the goal

Am I exempt from all restrictions when I am vaccinated ?


you will still need to follow all standard social distancing and safety requirements. this is because you can still be infectious with no symptoms.

with respect to thalidomide, that is a full drug that had problems during early trimester pregnancies, unlike drugs, a vaccine is training your immune system, and has nothing in it that would cause systemic problems.

also as a note, phased clinical trials were created after the thalidomide incident, and both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have passed all 3 phases of their clinical trials.


Thank you for your Time and your very well discribed Explanations.
Very good.:)

I am pretty sure,this helps now unsure and anxious People to convince them for the Vaccination.:)



For me - still -> Thank you,no Vaccination.:)
 
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how was it rushed when it was built on the back of 10+ years of SARS-COV research?

you forget that SARS and MERS happened in 2002, and 2012, are very closely related, and partially constructed vaccines were made for both by 2015.

Hurried, rushed, expedited. Everyone knows that there is legal and scientific framework to follow. People also know how easy it is to forget to dot an i or cross a t when you are under the pressure of a clock. Some question the reliability of the framework. All vaccines and medicine is built on the back of 100's of years of scientific research. Covid-19 vaccine is a new vaccine.

Basically, people exist and people are skeptical. It's unreasonable to think they shouldn't be.
 
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I am pretty sure,someone can answer all these Questions for me please:

What are the side effects ?
What does vaccination mean for allergy sufferers ?
Is the vaccination genetically modified or not ?
Can a vaccinated person be a vector ?
Is the vaccination just so that the process is dampened ?
Am I exempt from all restrictions when I am vaccinated ?

Thank you.:)

By the Way,someone remember the "Thalidomide Story ?"
Adding to the previous answer:

In Australia, and I would assume other countries too, you need to remain at the clinic for 15 minutes after being vaccinated regardless of whether you have a history of allergies. Those who suffer from allergic reactions should speak with their doctor before being vaccinated.

At this stage it seems some vaccinated people can still spread the virus, but they will spread less virus particles than an unvaccinated person. If the amount of virus particles they spread is lower than the infectious dose, whoever consumes these virus particles wont get sick. In the future we will likely use a nasal vaccine (a vaccine sprayed up one's nose) to stop vaccinated people spreading the virus.

The vaccine protects you from symptomatic covid. This means you can still catch the coronavirus but it wont make you sick. This is important because it protects you from organ damage and autoimmune disorders which some coronavirus patients still suffer from, even after recovering from the virus itself.

As always, the situation is constantly evolving so the answers to your questions may change as more data becomes available.
 
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The question arises tho, what are the unforeseen circumstances of contracting COVID itself? We also don't know.

There are pros and cons and you have to decide for yourself which you are more comfortable with.
That is actually a good question, which helped me understand why some people is taking the vaccination. I also understand those that don't want to take it right away as well. What a conundrum we have. At any rate though hopefully the benefit of vaccination will outweigh the risk and no harmful long term side effect will happen now or in the future after taking it.
 

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Nonsense. 50% or more of Americans refused to wear masks, believed that herd immunity would wipe it out, and continued about their normal lives despite restrictions, mandates, lockdowns, etc. We all can see how well THAT worked out.
Then you must have some amazing evidence that the virus spread can't be described by a generalized logistic function or that the transmission rate is much higher than believed practically everywhere.
 

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Then you must have some amazing evidence that the virus spread can't be described by a generalized logistic function or that the transmission rate is much higher than believed practically everywhere.

So you must have some amazing evidence that the anti-maskers have developed herd immunity. Try again, bud. Or try to stay in the context of what was actually stated.
 
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i would have said no, but my mother wants to take it and if i dont do so too i wont be able to see her for some days (iirc it was 15 days), now i'm considering it, but probably wont
 

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99% survival rate, with a vaccine already out. Don't tell me how to live my life.
1% fatality rate is millions of deaths if allowed to spread, and it will be a long while before enough people have been vaccinated to change the daily death rate. Grow up and wear a mask. You've already admitted you don't care about the deaths of strangers.
 
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