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I believe the term you're looking for is "Potential Voters", and they're absolutely relevant the second they show up to the polls. Bigger issues draw bigger turnouts, and tend to show how blue a state really is. It only took less than 2 million folk to start this crazy train without any pushback from the other side/state majority, and now barely more than that number came out in support for Elder (which shows just how large a voting block they actually are), while several million more wanted to keep the current administration going. It was never triggered by any sort of major voting group wanting change, it was always a minority calling out and abusing recall rules... And now it has only served to empower a really lackluster democrat with delusions of self importance and a dream of a run for the white house.

As an employee of the Registrar of Voters, I can assure you that voting is both safe and incredibly well monitored by third parties, as we've been having so... so many public observers... totally not slowing us down. Also, you should listen to the pretty panda. Seems to be arguing pretty well.

Everyone received mail-in ballots
What does "turn out" mean to you?


Looks like recall is going to lose. Also,


This is fake news.
Claiming voter fraud and asking people to report suspected voter fraud are different.
The video posted by BitMasterPlus actually claims voter fraud, for comparison.
 
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Everyone received mail-in ballots
What does "turn out" mean to you?
Turn out means how many of those 22 million show up to the polls. It seems like the majority of the folks who voted for the recall to happen also voted for Larry Elder, but that they were in a fair minority that could have been an even smaller percentage of the vote depending on said turn out. More turn out tends to mean more democrats in California. The fact that this even happened at all is because the threshold to start a recall was quite low and had no way to be countered, and now it has only served to bolster the incumbent in future elections and waste buckets of money... and the other side is already complaining about fraud before the polls had even closed, and seek to waste even more money and solidify the victory of their rival that much more. It's kinda sad, really.
 

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This is fake news.
Claiming voter fraud and asking people to report suspected voter fraud are different.
The video posted by BitMasterPlus actually claims voter fraud, for comparison.
oh hey look missinformation again
Larry Elders website on 9/13/2021 had "Statistical analyses used to detect fraud in elections held in 3rd-world nations (such as Russia, Venezuela, and Iran) have detected fraud in California resulting in Governor Gavin Newsom being reinstated as governor. The primary analytical tool used was Benford’s Law and can be readily reproduced."

He definitely claimed Fraud...mind you this was at least 48 hours before the actually Election... he only mistake was putting up the website too early and was caught and he had to backtrack..
 
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Turn out means how many of those 22 million show up to the polls
Everyone received mail-in ballots

No one had to show up to polls.

Larry Elder got the most recall votes because he was the most popular candidate.
The only more popular candidate was "blank" :lol:
 

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No one had to show up to polls.

Larry Elder got the most recall votes because he was the most popular candidate.
The only more popular candidate was "blank" :lol:
Are... you considering no to the recall "blank"? You realize he lost because he was not the most popular candidate by a fairly huge amount, right? The nearly 6 million "No" votes are votes for Gavin, almost triple what Larry Elder received.
 

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oh hey look missinformation again
Larry Elders website on 9/13/2021 had "Statistical analyses used to detect fraud in elections held in 3rd-world nations (such as Russia, Venezuela, and Iran) have detected fraud in California resulting in Governor Gavin Newsom being reinstated as governor. The primary analytical tool used was Benford’s Law and can be readily reproduced."

He definitely claimed Fraud...mind you this was at least 48 hours before the actually Election... he only mistake was putting up the website too early and was caught and he had to backtrack..

If you check waybackmachine, his stopthefraud website said that on September 6th.
It's clear that its referencing Newsom's previous election in 2019, as he used to be Lieutenant Governor for 8 years prior to becoming Governor. In context, he would not be reinstated during this race, because he was never out of office. He could be reinstated as governor after completing his Lieutenant Governor term limits.

Are... you considering no to the recall "blank"? You realize he lost because he was not the most popular candidate by a fairly huge amount, right? The nearly 6 million "No" votes are votes for Gavin, almost triple what Larry Elder received.

The second question can still be answered if you voted no to the first. Leaving the second questions blank means that, if Newsom is recalled, they have no preference.

you mean 2nd most Poplar Cadidate with 12% of the Voter.. if 12% is a Popular Candidate then man ...you Must of Voted for Ross Perot in 1992!

These are red herrings. Non-voters don't matter in an election.
Even if they did, you can't claim they would have voted one way or the other.

To sum up your derailing efforts, I said that Larry Elder was the most popular recall candidate.
You are arguing that Newsom is a recall candidate :wtf:
You are also claiming recall effort was a waste even though more than 1/3 of active voters said yes.
Of those who voted yes, nearly half said "Elder".


You try to downplay this recall as if no one wanted it, but that's just dishonest.

Here's my re-railing effort:
My point is that there are too many people to outright ignore the recall effort.
You are the one that said they would ignore the election before commiting fraud.
I'm saying that isn't possible for a popular movement; fraud would be more likely.

That being said, you consistently argue in bad faith.
You're obviously trolling and its not going to work on me :grog:
 
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If you check waybackmachine, his stopthefraud website said that on September 6th.
It's clear that its referencing Newsom's previous election in 2019, as he used to be Lieutenant Governor for 8 years prior to becoming Governor. In context, he would not be reinstated during this race, because he was never out of office. He could be reinstated as governor after completing his Lieutenant Governor term limits.



The second question can still be answered if you voted no to the first. Leaving the second questions blank means that, if Newsom is recalled, they have no preference.



These are red herrings. Non-voters don't matter in an election.
Even if they did, you can't claim they would have voted one way or the other.

To sum up your derailing efforts, I said that Larry Elder was the most popular recall candidate.
You are arguing that Newsom is a recall candidate :wtf:
You are also claiming recall effort was a waste even though more than 1/3 of active voters said yes.
Of those who voted yes, nearly half said "Elder".


You try to downplay this recall as if no one wanted it, but that's just dishonest.

Here's my re-railing effort:

Comrade, I am beginning to think your knowledge of teh maths may not be up to par... or you're just arguing in bad faith. The 22 million are all valid voters, even if this particular election didn't get their vote. This was a special election, which happens on a Tuesday, a work day, and featured a recall that many people didn't understand. Some folks didn't feel they knew enough to wisely place a ballot. Some folk just didn't care... but that leaves out the recall supporters altogether, who were mobilized and active and still failed altogether. Not even a full 1/10th of the voting population cared for Larry Elder. Fewer still cared to have a recall at all. No other state would have humored this expensive clown show, and nobody even came close to dethroning one of the least liked Democrats in decades. So sorry, but this was pointless and the math doesn't lie. Gavin had the votes by a landslide so bad, his opponent gave up his fraud claim before the morning and just conceded.
 
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Comrade, I am beginning to think your knowledge of teh maths may not be up to par... or you're just arguing in bad faith.
I agree
If you check waybackmachine, his stopthefraud website said that on September 6th.
It's clear that its referencing Newsom's previous election in 2019
Lol 2019 nope his talking bout 2021 “have detected fraud in California resulting in Governor Gavin Newsom being reinstated as governor.”
Man …best case you just proved Elder was lying about fraud. Worst case your parroting lies to make a bad faith argument.

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And here’s abc 7 with a saved picture of the website stating it on 9/13 https://twitter.com/abc7/status/1437651716548096001?s=2158DD122A-E7C1-4A89-9898-4E49FDCEA7F1.jpeg
 
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Well....
With shit like this happening (again), can you really blame them for calling voter fraud?
When they call fraud before the election even starts? Yes I can.
Besides, need proof that this is widespread enough to effect elections before and even after fixing them. That this only effects one party.


You need an ID to register, signature verification and some ballots even have barcodes. So the notion of "no identification" is just wrong.
 
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