All is confirmed the Nintendo Switch is powered by stock Nvidia Tegra X1, same chipset used in Shield TV. The most surprising is the retention of 4 Cortex A53 processor cores, which have no use in the Nintendo switch as they can't be operated at the same time when Cortex A57 cores are running due to the ARM big.little configuration setup.

After subsequent processing of the GPU from the Nintendo Switch, we have determined that the processor is the Nvidia Tegra T210. The T210 CPU features 4 Cortex A57 and 4 Cortex A53 processor cores and the GPU is a GM20B Maxell core.

http://techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/nintendo-switch-teardown/

Nvidia Tegra X1 features

• 8 core CPU (4 x Cortex A57 and 4 x Cortex A53)
• GPU is a GM20B Maxell core

A comparison to Shield TV. Switch specs on the left, and Shield TV on the right. The clock speeds are reported from Eurogamer, which are very much true.

• RAM: 4GB vs 3GB
• CPU: 1Ghz vs. 2Ghz
• GPU: 3 modes:307.2Mhz/384Mhz/768Mhz vs 1Ghz

Shield TV is clocked higher initially in both CPU and GPU, but don't forget Shield TV can't keep these clock speeds up for long, it throttles down to the exact switch's dock clockspeeds. Which further supports a stock X1.

 

[jsa]

Don't forget the upgraded CPU, not just GPU. Wii U's PowerPC 750CL had barely any SIMD functionality (just "paired singles"). Switch's ARMv8 has the full NEON instruction set, which is comparable to the various SSEs on x86. (NEON is 128-bit only though; AVX is 256-bit.)

750CL is the Wii's processor, not Wii U

 

[specht]

Nintendo was always involved. They just chose not to say anything. Whenever they aren't involved in a certain situation, they flat out come and say it. They knew what the claim was, and what people expected them to have, and yet they said nothing about it. Why? They were okay with the consumers having the incorrect, yet more positive assumption of their product. If people think your system is stronger than it actually is, then why correct them?

Morals? Ethics? Concrete truth? Those don't apply to Nintendo.

Disclaimer: This me, as a nintendo fan, being unhappy with the COMPANY, not the switch. The system being weaker than the other consoles doesn't bother me aside from the fact that it's unlikely we'll see many 3rd party AAA games for it, for as a handheld fan, I would much rather play a 3rd party AAA game on the switch.

I'm not trying to defend Nintendo here, but I highly doubt they were involved with the newer Shield TVs or cancelled Shield X1 tablet.

If they did disclose their specs they wouldn't be able to go touting it as a console but have to focus more on the handheld aspect (which honestly probably would've been the better route). This is the first actual confirmation that it's an X1 in there.

 

[Benja81]

I'm not trying to defend Nintendo here, but I highly doubt they were involved with the newer Shield TVs or cancelled Shield X1 tablet.

If they did disclose their specs they wouldn't be able to go touting it as a console but have to focus more on the handheld aspect (which honestly probably would've been the better route). This is the first actual confirmation that it's an X1 in there.

Also, realistically, what is Nintendo gonna do? Have a press conference to explain the difference between FP16 vs FP32?

 

[emmauss]

the wii u uses 750cl

750CL is the Wii's processor, not Wii U

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U#Hardware

 

[s157]

I'm not trying to defend Nintendo here, but I highly doubt they were involved with the newer Shield TVs or cancelled Shield X1 tablet.

If they did disclose their specs they wouldn't be able to go touting it as a console but have to focus more on the handheld aspect (which honestly probably would've been the better route). This is the first actual confirmation that it's an X1 in there.

Shield TV? Shield X1 tablet? We must've misunderstood each other, as I didn't mention those, or at least wasn't intending to. My claim was that Nvidia's claim about the switch specs was a lie (and do note they were a key partner in the Switch's creation), and that even now Nintendo didn't bother to correct them. It's like having your wingman exaggerate your good points so you can score a date with a girl, and you not bothering to correct him even after you managed to start dating her. Pretty scumbag move.

 

[jsa]

the wii u uses 750cl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U#Hardware

No; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espresso_(microprocessor)
It appears to be of a similar architecture to the 750 series, but it is not a 750CL

 

[specht]

Shield TV? Shield X1 tablet? We must've misunderstood each other, as I didn't mention those, or at least wasn't intending to. My claim was that Nvidia's claim about the switch specs was a lie (and do note they were a key partner in the Switch's creation), and that even now Nintendo didn't bother to correct them. It's like having your wingman exaggerate your good points so you can score a date with a girl, and you not bothering to correct him even after you managed to start dating her. Pretty scumbag move.

I was referring to Nvidia's original 1TF at FP16 marketing for X1 having nothing to do with Switch as it was used for those other devices. Nintendo is scummy for not saying what was being used in Switch and leaving everyone to speculate.

To clarify further, Nvidia never said they were using the X1 for Switch either, but saying "top performing Geforce" technology didn't help.

 

[DrkBeam]

I was referring to Nvidia's original 1TF at FP16 marketing for X1 having nothing to do with Switch as it was used for those other devices. Nintendo is scummy for not saying what was being used in Switch and leaving everyone to speculate.

And the damage has been done, being marketed as a home console for me is a bad move, even more when the people think they would have the same games on the go like the Xbox one at least at 900p on docked mode and at the bargain of $300. I personally I would prefer with a weaker chip in order to be more affordable and being marketed as the most powerful handheld you can connect to a tv

 

[s157]

I was referring to Nvidia's original 1TF at FP16 marketing for X1 having nothing to do with Switch as it was used for those other devices. Nintendo is scummy for not saying what was being used in Switch and leaving everyone to speculate.

To clarify further, Nvidia never said they were using the X1 for Switch either, but saying "top performing Geforce" technology didn't help.

Oh, back then we didn't know the Switch would be using the same X1. This thread started at the discovery for it. Before then all we knew was that it would use a "custom" Tegra processor, which in itself is a scummy wording because the word "custom" denotes "specialized" when all it actually had is the stock x1. 1 TFLOPS at FP16 was (somewhat) common knowledge for the X1, but it was claimed that the Switch would run at 1TFLOPS with specifying whether it was at FP16 or FP32, while we did not have the knowledge it was the stock X1. While it was true in that it runs at 1 TFLOPS at FP16, competitors use FP32, so saying it ran at 1 TFLOPS wasn't a lie, but it gave the terrible assumption that it was nearly as strong as an Xbox One.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

So the Xbox 360 has a power PC architecture, developers know how to work with, anyway on your previous post you claim it should be seen as a hanheld, so why a handheld could handle AAA titles with a 300$ Nintendo budget and not selling at a loss, there are not proof those games are coming to the switch at least the majority, either way right now the switch looks like another Nintendo game machine with a lot of indie games and lack of current Gen games like mass effect Andromeda and others alike

LOL I don't think Massively fucked Andromeda is a good example or a good game for that matter considering all the negative early access reviews. They started working on that years ago. If the switch does well I could see an ARM port of it in a year or 2 or 3.

 

[s157]

LOL I don't think Massively fucked Andromeda is a good example or a good game for that matter considering all the negative early access reviews. They started working on that years ago. If the switch does well I could see an ARM port of it in a year or 2 or 3.

Key words. Here's hoping we get a slew of great first party games to ensure that it does well, which is definitely possible but they really need to axe the 3DS.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

Key words. Here's hoping we get a slew of great first party games to ensure that it does well, which is definitely possible but they really need to axe the 3DS.

I think the 3DS will just die of natural causes. Haven't touched mine since I started playing botw, and hopefully they will keep releasing titles that tickle my fancy and keep me using the Switch.

Hear that Nintendo? You better give me something else good before I finish Zelda!

<Glares at Nintendo>

 

[GerbilSoft]

No; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espresso_(microprocessor)
It appears to be of a similar architecture to the 750 series, but it is not a 750CL

It's a non-standard variant based on 750CL. Among other things, they bolted on SMP, which normally isn't supported by the 750 series. (Easier to just refer to it as 750 or 750CL though.)

 

[Vipera]

With the difference being Switch runs actual games instead of worthless apps.

Oceanhorn, Atomic Pinball, Solitairica, NFS Most Wanted, Reign, Her Story, Osmos, I am level, Doug Dug, Negative Space, Heroes of Loot.

Here you go, 10 actual games from Android. One more than the Switch.

 

[Deleted-401606]

Again, I'm sorry it doesn't fit your royal status for portables.

Its not really a portable but keep telling yourself that to cope.

 

[Xzi]

lack of current Gen games like mass effect Andromeda and others alike

ME:A actually hasn't been ruled out for Switch, but given reviews so far say it's garbage, it wouldn't be a big loss if it didn't come to the system either.

 

[Mr. Wizard]

Oceanhorn, Atomic Pinball, Solitairica, NFS Most Wanted, Reign, Her Story, Osmos, I am level, Doug Dug, Negative Space, Heroes of Loot.

Here you go, 10 actual games from Android. One more than the Switch.

Hey I can do that too! Here are 10 of the worst flash games ever made!

Dancing Coyotes, Bleach Flash Game, Tobikomi Jumpman, Batman flash game, Go Go Emo Rangers, Ninjas Versus Pirates War, Robot Rangers: The Zombie Menace, Superman flash game, Galactic 123: The Mission, Orni Champions.

Just because I can list 10 games doesn't mean they are any good or that anyone would want to play them ever...

 

[Benja81]

Its not really a portable but keep telling yourself that to cope.

Starting to look like it's more of a portable than anything else, despite what Nintendo wanted us to believe.

 

[Vipera]

Hey I can do that too! Here are 10 of the worst flash games ever made!

Dancing Coyotes, Bleach Flash Game, Tobikomi Jumpman, Batman flash game, Go Go Emo Rangers, Ninjas Versus Pirates War, Robot Rangers: The Zombie Menace, Superman flash game, Galactic 123: The Mission, Orni Champions.

Just because I can list 10 games doesn't mean they are any good or that anyone would want to play them ever...

The games I mentioned are all critically acclaimed. Your point?

 

[Mr. Wizard]

The games I mentioned are all critically acclaimed. Your point?

My point was "lol android games".