Colombia needs help

[Louse]

funny headline machine go brrrrr

 

[estebangh]

funny headline machine go brrrrr

Heh... sorry, looks that crazy? But sadly is some of the reality that gets filtered out to the rest of the world.

I wonder how much we're not seeing about every conflict out there...

 

[Xzi]

I can't understand most of that, but suggesting that the people in charge bare no responsibility here seems more than a bit disingenuous. They wouldn't be cutting off communications if they were doing everything by the book.

 

[estebangh]

I can't understand most of that, but suggesting that the people in charge bare no responsibility here seems more than a bit disingenuous. They wouldn't be cutting off communications if they were doing everything by the book.

I'm not suggesting that government has no responsibility, in fact they should care about every citizen the ones protesting and also the ones that aren't but often opposition inciting violence are actively avoiding responsibility. They're accountable of hurting and specially if they kill people involved in the protest, but riots don't materialize from thin air. Regarding the communications, there aren't major Internet or power outages other than the usual maintenance, fortunately virtually all communication infrastructure isn't controlled by government.

And I believe that we may agree that anything being done off the books must get to the justice accordingly.

BTW, I'm not intending to be rude. Thanks for bringing those questions I find them really interesting

P.S. I forgot to mention that we're in the last year of this government so this situation is easily motivated to gain votes for either side

 

[JaNDeRPeiCH]

Fuck I'm sorry to hear that. The world needs to get past this new wave of authoritarianism and fascism already, but I have a sinking feeling that it's just getting started in a lot of ways. The only way to get the US and CIA to act quickly is by democratically electing a socialist leader.

I read sometime ago when a nation massacre their citizens,the other nations get ASAP intervention,no matter if their fascist govern say it you have no power here.Thats a rule in the ONU...i dont know if colombia have membership in the ONU.

This a excepcional case so if their deploy that rule quickly,will save many lives.

 

[estebangh]

I read sometime ago when a nation massacre their citizens,the other nations get ASAP intervention,no matter if their fascist govern say it you have no power here.Thats a rule in the ONU...i dont know if colombia have membership in the ONU.

This a excepcional case so if their deploy that rule quickly,will save many lives.

Interventions are really rare and I think getting third parties involved tend to diminish every nation's sovereignty, because it may seem that for every disagreement (I know that's not a massacre) you needed foreigners to solve others problem? As far as I know UN has NATO and there's a security council in which Colombia was invited some time ago but can't really take any decision through vote, we're mainly an observer, I'll have to take a look at it again. But UN getting involved is very unlikely in my opinion after what recently happened in Venezuela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Venezuelan_protests unless they want to take a stance against a right leaning government raising questions about their impartiality.

EDIT: I found an interesting source about Colombia in the UN https://www.cancilleria.gov.co/en/security-council

 

[JaNDeRPeiCH]

When a government betray their citizens and massacre it with no reason,if the people of that nation doesnt have the tools to defend themselves but other nations have it,in this case in my judgment intervention its the only way. All the nations of the world its their duty give trust&safety of their citizens.Massacre your citizens its the bad way of the dictatorship (hitler,mussolini etc)

 

[Viri]

Massacre your citizens its the bad way of the dictatorship (hitler,mussolini etc)

Worked for Stalin.

 

[estebangh]

When a government betray their citizens and massacre it with no reason,if the people of that nation doesnt have the tools to defend themselves but other nations have it,in this case in my judgment intervention its the only way. All the nations of the world its their duty give trust&safety of their citizens.Massacre your citizens its the bad way of the dictatorship (hitler,mussolini etc)

I completely agree with you. But this situation is far from being a massacre against citizens and sadly UN couldn't claim something similar in Venezuela, people there are dying from starvation "like" an actual massacre.