Question Collection of Mana, extracting Trials of Mana ROM from collection?

Discussion in 'Switch - ROM Hacking, Saves, Translations & Tools' started by NANASHI89, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. bikerspade

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    sk2_a does not seem to be PAL. It matches the nointro USA release of Secret of Mana. bsnes confirms this:
    Code:
    game
      sha256:   4c15013131351e694e05f22e38bb1b3e4031dedac77ec75abecebe8520d82d5f
      label:    Secret of Mana
      name:     Secret of Mana
      region:   SNS-K2-USA
      revision: SNS-K2-0
      board:    SHVC-1J3M-01
        memory
          type: ROM
          size: 0x200000
          content: Program
        memory
          type: RAM
          size: 0x2000
          content: Save
    
    board: SHVC-1J3M-(01,11,20)
      memory
        type:ROM
        content:Program
        map
          address:00-3f,80-bf:8000-ffff
        map
          address:40-7d,c0-ff:0000-ffff
      memory
        type:RAM
        content:Save
        map
          address:20-3f,a0-bf:6000-7fff
          mask:0xe000
    
    sk3_a is an English translation of the original Japanese release of SeikenDensetsu3. From bsnes:
    Code:
    game
      sha256:   c2f94d86bc01df4a9863ec85540e384aef84ccbe2a1ac1006ba352a2ffc8ac8e
      label:    sk3_a
      name:     sk3_a
      title:    SeikenDensetsu3
      region:   SHVC-A3DJ-JPN
      revision: SHVC-A3DJ-0
      board:    EXHIROM-RAM
        memory
          type: ROM
          size: 0x600000
          content: Program
        memory
          type: RAM
          size: 0x2000
          content: Save
    
    board: EXHIROM-RAM
      memory
        type:ROM
        content:Program
        map
          address:00-3f:8000-ffff
          base:0x400000
        map
          address:40-7d:0000-ffff
          base:0x400000
        map
          address:80-bf:8000-ffff
          mask:0xc00000
        map
          address:c0-ff:0000-ffff
          mask:0xc00000
      memory
        type:RAM
        content:Save
        map
          address:20-3f,a0-bf:6000-7fff
          mask:0xe000
        map
          address:70-7d:0000-7fff
    
     
    Last edited by bikerspade, Jun 12, 2019
  2. Liriel

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    Mmh sfrom Tool says german pal to sk2_g. Sfc

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  3. bikerspade

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    Correct, sk2_g is a German PAL version (1.0), although its crc32=9499855e does not match the verified dump of the German Secret of Mana cart (crc32=b069bb3a). Here is what bsnes shows for sk2_g:
    Code:
    game
      sha256:   ce0d56a8a2d4433dca3387942a915e8a9287233fde04d08456eb80da5e67f66f
      label:    sk2_g
      name:     sk2_g
      title:    Secret of MANA
      region:   NOE
      revision: 1.0
      board:    HIROM-RAM
        memory
          type: ROM
          size: 0x200000
          content: Program
        memory
          type: RAM
          size: 0x2000
          content: Save
    
    board: HIROM-RAM
      memory
        type:ROM
        content:Program
        map
          address:00-3f,80-bf:8000-ffff
        map
          address:40-7d,c0-ff:0000-ffff
      memory
        type:RAM
        content:Save
        map
          address:20-3f,a0-bf:6000-7fff
          mask:0xe000
    
    sk2_e matches "Secret of Mana (Europe) (Rev 1).sfc" from no-intro (crc32=de112322).
     
  4. Liriel

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    Mmh the europe Version is only english.

    Which Version of sd2 in the german version is now better?
    The Old Rom or the one from the collection?

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  5. ShadowOne333

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    It's nice to see that everything went well with the dump. :)
    It's always good to have these sort of things for archival purposes, more so with new ROMs not released back in the day, like Star Fox 2 and now Trails of Mana as of recent years.
     
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  6. AnalogMan

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    I didn't say it wasn't pirating, I was just explaining why one would want to extract the rom rather than install and play the full Switch game.
     
  7. seanp2500

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    Well i am personally sick of all these comments about piracy ugh

    So for me i similar to star fox 2 (having played the bootleg for years and having noticed a huge difference in the quality of the classic snes version) also would like to now play trials of mana. While i have enjoyed the eshop version something i do dislike is that it is not full screen. This is a big reason id like to play in retroarch.
     
  8. ShadowOne333

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    Don't forget to add the fact that you can play with customizable button mappings, 2x speed for tedious sections, full screen, shaders, filters for both audio/video, and the icing on the cake, cheat codes.
     
  9. PityOnU

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    The title of this thread was pretty much my first thought when they announced this was being released in the US. An official English translation after all these years - awesome! Even better that it is an SFC-compatible format. Looking forward to playing it on real hardware using my SD2SNES!
     
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  10. Liriel

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    Its in English, France, german and spain.
    But its not in sfc compatibel Format.
    After decode and Co it is

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  11. Liriel

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    So i preorder the physical Version that comes around mitte August.

    Trials of mana
    I Look at the Fan Translation and the New german version.
    The name are different and Some name are the Same.
    the Translation is different too.
    The meaning of the Text is similar in both but different.

    German Medien says that sd3 got some changes and i mean not the Text.
    Some game mechanics are change or get better.


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    Last edited by Liriel, Jun 12, 2019
  12. the_randomizer

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    Got the collection (well my brother bought it since he loves the SD series) and the emulation is top notch, expected nothing less from the mad geniuses at M2 :P Trials of Mana looks pretty darn good scaled up to 1080p.
     
  13. Liriel

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    I will wait to Augustto buy it because the cartridge Version comes and it Looks like it is limited and that for the Same price.


    But Charlotte has a funny speak error in the german version that not exist in the Fan translation[​IMG]

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  14. Raugo

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    yep, I like her lisping :)
     
  16. TheShadowRunner

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    The correct one has the following md5:
    c9829d76e25f8c4bf459cf77a8306825
    It's the full english translated rom without debug, running at 60Hz.
     
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  17. chaoskagami

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    ↑↑↓↓←→←→BA
    Alternatively, here's some SHA-1s for those of you who hate MD5:

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    462580125693a73da90da08d415023a885d84d1d *sk3_a.smc
    d9757453fc9799ecd6780202b3f603e7ab2168af *sk3_e.smc
    f0ad9af7e8dee731d2c8112d4e954e9b238032bc *sk3_f.smc
    d882e706dd201f9d0c94199e3317778f14461fb2 *sk3_g.smc
    6317fc3fdc99b33f73ea69bf6e9f13da02fb2e8d *sk3_s.smc
    
    The "sound" one has been excluded because it's useless. sk3_e.smc is a debug version, sk3_a.smc is the proper English version. The others are French, German, and Spanish respectively (because these are also technically new.) This was retrieved directly by extracting the RomFs and unpacking the per-file compression.
     
    Last edited by chaoskagami, Jun 14, 2019
  18. Dodain47

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    Rom size for Trials of Mana is 6 Mbyte. It´s very easy to find with google.
    The whole package looks like the picture below.
     

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  19. Exaltys

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    I'll probably get the Collection but still play the dumped rom on my SNES with an Everdrive.
     
  20. SonicMC

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    8bitdo controller is Great! Notwithstanding, you should be able to use the bliss-box to use snes controller on switch too. I have one but have yet to try it out yet. this youtube shows some other retro controllers though :)
     
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