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Discussion in '3DS - Games & Content' started by chicodiesel, Jul 16, 2014.
Just downloaded Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D 17.xxx blocks ...but it's worth it!!
As a Platinum member 5 years in a row, I'm incredibly insulted as I'm used to things with limited quantities that I could have pride in, like a swanky awesome poster set, a soundtrack CD, some figurine, pin, or other merch...
What am I treated with this year after finding it INCREDIBLY difficulty to want to purchase the lame crap released from July 13- July 14? Oh just my pick of one digital game, that costs them nothing to produce. But even worse is most of the "good" games are only on Wii u.
Anyways I'm done ranting, and if my "gift" is going to be digital, then I'm just going to sell it to the highest bidder. Who wants DK Country or NESREMIX for $20? I'll use the money towards another Majora's Mask CD
Yeah this kind of sucks compared to years prior.
Not even a little calendar or anything.
First year I hit platinum and these are the rewards?
Damn, all this free stuff they're giving us is not up to my standards. I'm boycotting Nintendo.
Its not free...you earn it from purchasing ninth products.
So they charge you money for them? Or do they give you the coins for free after you buy a Nintendo product?
It's great that they give the free stuff. They don't have to at all.
It's just that many of us who got things in the past were let down there were no "special" physical items this year. For example, last year I got the mini calendar. I keep it on my desk and it gives me a little smile when I look at it each day. It's really dumb, because it probably only cost them like 2 cents to make, but I really appreciate it and makes me feel extremely appreciated as a customer.
A digital download of a game doesn't have the same feel. It's nice they are doing it, but as a productive member of society, I could just buy whatever game I want whenever I want to. They're really cheap.
Club Nintendo rewards are supposed to be "special."
Its good and all. Really happy Nintendo rewards us for free. Anyway, visit gamefaqs, the topics are hilarious.
Its not free, but you're thinking in terms of cash dollar, and not in terms of value.
You don't just buy a game and get free stuff. To get the "Free" but not really free stuff, you're spending your time, and MORE valuable, your opinions and information, to give them feedback and metadata that they can apply to development, but far more likely, their marketing divisions. This type of valuable information you can't just buy from people, they have to volunteer to give it out. Nintendo is easily gaining an asset they otherwise couldn't get on their own or by normal means. So instead Nintendo offers us "free" stuff, and in turn we give them our precious time, opinions, and personal information so that they can better-sell their next products and repeat the cycle anew.
Back to the "value." Value is subjective. Value can mean something different to many people. The reason a person can favor a poster set that took a quarter to print and make than a $35 digital copy of Donky Kong Country is because the value is different for the person. When you reach the "elite" Gold or Platinum status; thats a milestone. You've been a loyal Nintendo fan, who has spent well over $200-500 in stuff that year to reach a special status. Special Status, Special Status. Special Status. You know whats not special? Any jackass with an eshop card can purchase those mediocre games. Assuming most of us have not already owned half those games and actually cared about the other half; we could have bought those games at any time we wanted. If I wanted Dillon's Shitty Western, I would have bought it. I sure as hell don't want it for free, and I'd appreciate it more if Club Nintendo stopped tying to push it as some prize to be won. I already owned most the 3DS games on the Gift list and the others I've no interest in. Let me clue you into the idea that anything fitting of the "special" Gold and Platinum member milestone should not be just bought from anyone with an eshop card.
Now a three-piece poster set that cost near-nothing to produce, IS something special. They're often made in limited quantities and can't be obtained by conventional means. Once they're out of print, thats it, no more. Collect them or display them with pride, something as modest as a cheap calendar set, is far more special to an avid Club Nintendo enthusiast than a digital game. Earning a parcel in the mail from Washington (Where CN ships out their merch) fells a hell of alot better than downloading a digital game or buying something from ebay. I want my goddamn 10-cent poster. The lack of specialness from this-years lineup is just insulting to the standards and expectations of loyal CN users.
Finally, this is less about the ideals of what is free, what is value, and what is special, and more about the actual selection. The selection offered is dog-shit terrible. I mean this digital-shit costs them nothing to make and the absolute cream of the crop is Donkey Kong 3D? I mean really? No Zelda Wind Waker? Pokemon X? Fire Emblem Awakening? Ambassador 3DS GBA game that already exists? Downloadable E3 Demo of Smash Bros 4 for 3DS or Wii U? Downloadable Digital Soundtracks? Theres a ton of already-produced shit they could distribute free to their most loyal pools of metadata, but they don't want to do any better than mediocre. Offering stuff that can already be bought is like a chuck-e-cheese where instead of tickets, you're allowed to just buy the item at face value. You're taking out all the spirit of earning a thing that in terms of value, wasn't worth it's own value.
And just as a side note, while we're not buying games for Club Nintendo points, they can sometimes be an incentive. Like when a shitty game like Yoshi's New Island you're not quite sure about, but then you figure "Oh what the hell, if nothing else I'll get 50 coins credited to my CN account and be eligible for that digital copy of Pokemon, which doesn't suck dick like DK3D" because thats totally a common thing that like everyone is saying. But I don't really care anymore, I'll just sell my "reward" for some money; I'm just trying to give a little insight to why people can find the negative in Club Nintendo. I know to alot of people it looks like nothing short than people mindlessly complaining about free stuff just because they don't cost any dollar amount, and to some other people, "free" has a whole other meaning.
is this just an american thing or does the EU site also do those reward thingies? because I haven't see anything about this on the Eu site and my login data only works for EU, doesnt even recognise my account on the US site... lol
I bought quite a few 3ds and wiiu games the last 1-2 years and I would like to know, where I can see, what "status" my account has ...
edit: nevermind, did some googling and found out, that americans have this gold and platinum status thingy and we don't, but therefore have the stars catalogue, which I already freakently use ^^
NES Remix is $14.99 in the eShop.
Time is never free.
I guess you favorite saying is... "Time is gold" ???
I pay for my games, not for the coins. Its a rewards program. EVERYTHING you get there is free. But whatever.
If it was free, then you wouldn't be spending your time and opinion on surveys. They're getting something from you of value to them and using the allure of "points" to get you to volunteer marketing data they'd otherwise wouldn't have. Free implies they're just giving stuff away, but what you've really done is worked for them by filling out their survey and in turn they give you some coins. Its no different than those "Free" MMO offers where you fill out like a dozen surveys to earn enough of that MMO cash currency to buy an item like a shoe or something. If it was free, then it'd be given to you with no effort on your part. Your time is worth something of value, and that value is subjective on the circumstance. Free is getting, for time you don't have to spend.
Having a free sample at a grocery store is free, having to sign something before you can have a free sample at a grocery market isn't free. I wouldn't say Time is gold, I'd say Time is money, but more accurately it's Money is Time. Just ignore the Club Nintendo BS for a moment, the one point I'd like to make is that if you had to put any of your time or effort into something, then that something isn't free, regardless of how you feel about your wallet. Giving x to get y isn't free. Free is getting y without giving x.
The Club Nintendo rewards aren't for buying games, its for your opinions and feedback for those games. The "rewards" program is more beneficial to Nintendo as a source of metadata and any marketing specialist would tell you that one person's opinions on 8-10 games has far more value and use to them than the spare change it took to print paper goods per unit and the cost to ship it. Depending on how you look at it, you could say Nintendo is cheating you, especially now more than ever because digital content is effortlessly replicated and distributed. Otherwise you'd be instantly rewarded coins when registering a game without a survey required.
Besides, I don't know how old you are, but you should atleast heard it enough by now that we live in an age of information, and information is more valuable now in business than it's ever been.
I'm 31 and I don't know why it matters. Like I said. Whatever. Its free.
So by your logic giving a blowjob for crack means free crack because you didn't have to use a form of currency with monetary value?
Or hand cranking a generator to light a lightbulb means free energy because you didnt need a wallet?
Well, according to merriam-webster, free is defined as "not costing or charging anything"
In that sense, the club nintendo rewards are "free"
However, while you do get some points for the simple act of purchasing something, the vast majority of points come from filling out surveys. Whereas you are in fact trading your data for points. Is your data worth anything? That can be debatable.
Thus whether or not the rewards are actually "free" depends on the value you place on your data. Something which is totally independent of how much value Ninty places upon your data.
The reason a lot of people are unhappy with the reward program is because we put a value on the effort taken to fill out surveys. A value in which we feel is not reciprocated in any way by the amount of value which ninty put into the reward program. Of course, this value is subjective, so it really is difficult to say whether this tradeoff is fair. But the fact remains that there were better rewards in the past according to a vast majority of opinions.