Misc Chances of Harris being outsted!

[Aergisgeist]

No, go on, explain it. I mean, I'm sure it's not just the colour of her skin, that would be absurd. I'm curious to hear the really smart and non-brainrot reasons you have, because I'm afraid vague stuff like "DEI hire" makes it really hard to tell.

Not OP, but if you look at her skin and gender, you will know why OP is upset

 

[TomSwitch]

There is a difference between 4 years and 6 months

Maybe senile is a better word than old. Only some people get to be senile. It's a lot harder to predict if a person will become senile in four years. Just as it was hard to know that Biden would be senile now four years ago.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Maybe senile is a better word than old. Only some people get to be senile. It's a lot harder to predict if a person will become senile in four years. Just as it was hard to know that Biden would be senile now four years ago.

Yet even now, we are seeing just how senile Trump is.

 

[TomSwitch]

Yet even now, we are seeing just how senile Trump is.

Not that I am a Trump supporter (I argue for argument sake) but you may be confusing sign of aging with being senile. I think Trump is too old too ( DEI alert DEI alert AGE discrimination )

 

[MicroNut99]

The Dems already made the primaries null and void. What makes you think they won't do the same with donations and just transfer them to somebody else?

There is nothing stopping it.
You think that because I think its legal that I'm just making it up to make you cry?

As I've just explained the donations cannot be transferred. It would be against the law. Harris can continue to use the funds as Biden has retired from the race. Trump could also retire for whatever reason and the Republicans could also just as easily replace him.

Transfering donations from one campaign to another is just as much against the law as trying to get a tax break for sleeping with a porn star and then trying to cover it up for votes.

Rape Sexual Assuault and that thing called J6 when the VP was threatened to be hung if he didn't sign off on the false electors put many in jail for years.

Not to mention America's top secret program literally in the shitter.

 

[TomSwitch]

There is nothing stopping it.
You think that because I think its legal that I'm just making it up to make you cry?

As I've just explained the donations cannot be transferred. It would be against the law. Harris can continue to use the funds as the Biden has retired from the race. Trump could also retire for whatever reason and the Republicans could also just as easily replace him.

Transfering donations from one campaign to another is just as much against the law as trying to get a tax break for sleeping with a porn star and then trying to cover it up for votes.

Rape Sexual Assuault and that thing called J6 when the VP was threatened to be hung if he didn't sign off on the false electors put many in jail for years.

Not to mention America's top secret program literally in shitter.

If someone get elected president they become too big to fail, maybe until they become ex president

 

[granville]

My prediction is that Kamala will win the nomination without much difficulty (and probably pick either Beshear or Cooper as VP). The big D endorsements and donors are coalescing around her. But I believe she will lose the general. While I believe Biden was headed towards a probable loss as well, I still think he would have put up a much better fight than any other candidate i've seen floated.

Most polls have put Harris' chances at roughly similar to Biden's within a 3-point margin or error. Biden is also significantly more favored among Independents than Harris. Her ability to win in critical swing states was polling lower than Biden.

Harris' polling has also been calculated in a neutral vaccuum. Just a hypothetical. Trump and the GOP have not even begun to target her yet.

There is nothing wrong with DEI in principle but most just do short cut for the sake of DEI KPI which gives DEI a bad name.

If Clinton can't win I doubt enough has changed since then for Harris to be better than Biden at winning this

Kamala will have a very different set of problems than Hillary. Hillary had a massive closet of skeletons that decimated her campaign. Bill Clinton also dragged her down somewhat too, but her own baggage was what ultimately cost her the election. Kamala has less of the same type of baggage, but is a black woman. Even if she was an "ideal" sort of candidate with a sparkling clean political record (which she isn't), her being both black and a woman together would pose a massive obstacle.

I also consider her somewhat of a weak and awkward speaker that generally collapses under any amount of pressure from anyone who isn't an easy target. She got one very good hit against Biden in the 2020 primary debates that gained her the VP position, but Tulsi Gabbard (who has effectively joined the GOP) destroyed her presidential campaign. Kamala debated decently well against Mike Pence, and likely would have done well against Vance. But they were chosen by Trump specifically due to their bland and non-threatening demeanors that posed no obvious danger to his own power and ego. If Trump were to even agree to a debate with Harris (and i'm not entirely sure what he'll decide there), I'm not at all sure she'll be able to keep up.

Yet even now, we are seeing just how senile Trump is.

I do not believe Trump is senile. Or at least does not show particularly obvious signs of it every time (or even most of the time) he's seen. I believe he is criminally deranged. A trait he was born with and has nothing to do with age. There's a reason why the same gripes with Biden haven't been able to stick to Trump. Trump doesn't come across as having the sort of memory and speech issues that Biden does.

Bernie Sanders is even older than Biden, but also gives off zero impressions that his mind is degrading. Hell, even Jimmy Carter (who is nearly 100 years old) still appeared very much "there" mentally back in 2020-2021 interviews before his health rapidly declined due to cancer over the past couple of years.

 

[supermist]

DEI Hire Harris

Tells me everything I need to know about your character and intellect.

I do not believe Trump is senile.

He was blaming Nikki Haley for 1/6 security failures and talked about beating Obama.

And there's the numerous examples where his sentences end in jumbled, incoherent messes.

 

[MicroNut99]

Tells me everything I need to know about your character and intellect.

miniminx said:
DEI Hire Harris

This is sarcasm tho, right?

 

[supermist]

This is sarcasm tho, right?

Given his posting history I doubt it

 

[MicroNut99]

Given his posting history I doubt it

Yea... I should have looked before writing... that was not smart.

 

[Hanafuda]

You can't oust what has not been nominated.

Joe Biden

 

[chrisrlink]

personally ANYONE'S better than "America's hitler" (aka trump)

 

[miniminx]

This is sarcasm tho, right?

No - she got VP for two reasons only. 1 to appeal to women, 2 to appeal to black voters. That's the only reasons. Maybe because she's also an idiot and easy to control. She hasn't achieved anything as VP - NOTHING!

 

[lerpderp]

Trump is crying in a corner over this XD

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This is sarcasm tho, right?

nope, its the usual garbage they spew

 

[MicroNut99]

No - she got VP for two reasons only. 1 to appeal to women, 2 to appeal to black voters. That's the only reasons. Maybe because she's also an idiot and easy to control. She hasn't achieved anything as VP - NOTHING!

I dont care who you vote for.
I prefer my politcs dry and level headed
and would rather eat a nothing burger than a shit sandwich.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Joe Biden

Joe Biden had been doing campaign for this election for a long time. Wait for her to campaign for a week before you can say she will be "ousted". She still didn't even give a speech saying she is running: Too soon.

Quite probably later today, though, the question may become valid.
And then I would reply the same I said before.

Even if she, in my opinion, is not the best or most popular candidate the Democrats have, if she is chosen I don't see any reason for her to be ousted (I don't see any reason with what I know now, also I don't hear almost anything about her or her positions... or what corpses she may or may not be hiding in her closet). Anyway, with the things that I know now I don't see any reason she could be ousted, she is not senile.

 

[TomSwitch]

She was chuck one side after the last election and have even less visibility than Mike Pence while he was VP. Being the current VP did not help her much for this battle except maybe for the nomination.

If Joe Biden step down now and make her president maybe she still have a small chance to make something out of it.

 

[Viri]

Joe Biden

Dark Brandon*

 

[JeepX87]

It is up to DNC to nominate Harris or other candidates and I agreed with @x65943 in other thread.

The election will be decided in several toss up states, also depends on how many voters stay at home and how many voters vote for third party. If many of voters stay at home are GOP or/and many of GOP voters vote third party like JFK Jr. for example, it is advantageous for Harris or other DEM candidate. Also, pick a VP play a factor for undecided voters in toss up states.

The intense political polarization in the US erased much of advantage for Trump after assassination attempt, so if it was 40 years ago, it would be a different story.