Cannabis more damaging to under-18s, study suggests

[yuyuyup]

Well, duh.
Why do you think all the stoners are such idiots about it?

No, stoners (speaking from a pot smoker who quit point of view) don't say there's nothing wrong with it. We say that there's nothing wrong with it enough to warrant us to stop. Nothing fatal or anything. There's a huge difference.

There is nothing wrong with it, I only quit because it made me jerk off too much.

 

[Snailface]

It's only 8 IQ points.....

That's an enormous difference. IQ is a normal curve not a linear relationship.

We're talking going from the 50th percentile to the 30th percentile.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Well, duh.
Why do you think all the stoners are such idiots about it?

No, stoners (speaking from a pot smoker who quit point of view) don't say there's nothing wrong with it. We say that there's nothing wrong with it enough to warrant us to stop. Nothing fatal or anything. There's a huge difference.

There is nothing wrong with it, I only quit because it made me jerk off too much.

Dude having sex or watching porn while high is the greatest feeling ever.

The only reason why I quit is because I may or may not have grown allergic to it. For some reason out of no where, I had a massive panic attack. And it was weird because I was a good smoker. I could take 5 footers like nothing and smoke bowls upon bowls a day. It just came out of no where. Ever since then, every time I smoked weed, I had a panic attack, so I stopped.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

 

[yuyuyup]

Well, duh.
Why do you think all the stoners are such idiots about it?

No, stoners (speaking from a pot smoker who quit point of view) don't say there's nothing wrong with it. We say that there's nothing wrong with it enough to warrant us to stop. Nothing fatal or anything. There's a huge difference.

There is nothing wrong with it, I only quit because it made me jerk off too much.

Dude having sex or watching porn while high is the greatest feeling ever.

The only reason why I quit is because I may or may not have grown allergic to it. For some reason out of no where, I had a massive panic attack. And it was weird because I was a good smoker. I could take 5 footers like nothing and smoke bowls upon bowls a day. It just came out of no where. Ever since then, every time I smoked weed, I had a panic attack, so I stopped.

I had that problem specifically with sativa, from what I gather that's somewhat of a consensus with people that experience anxiety, but sometimes I hear of the opposite (with indica instead.)

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[ShadowSoldier]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

 

[Thesolcity]

Well if it ever were legalized it would be for people over 18 anyway, possibly even 21. So i don't really see how this is an issue.

Its not about legalization, (which the US is far from, might I add). Its about the fact that introducing a stimulant as strong as Marijuana to a body still developing can cause issues with it developing. In other news, the sky is blue and gravity exists.

Useless fact: Weed has not killed a single person, while the government in the US has killed over 300 people for growing it.

Issues with developing, not death. Really big difference.

Well if it ever were legalized it would be for people over 18 anyway, possibly even 21. So i don't really see how this is an issue.

Its not about legalization, (which the US is far from, might I add). Its about the fact that introducing a stimulant as strong as Marijuana to a body still developing can cause issues with it developing. In other news, the sky is blue and gravity exists.

As a country its far from legalization, however 3 state vote to legalize this year. Colorado being the big player with a recent poll showing 61% of voters in favor of the legalization: http://www.huffingto..._n_1587405.html

This fact coupled with the fact that Obama ordered feds to stop tracking down individual users would means that it is now a state by state issue and we would likely see Colorado (if the amendment were to pass) Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol. Which lets face it, if either of those two "drugs" (i use that term loosely as alcohol is a drug and cannabis is a plant) should be legal, its absolutely marijuana. How many DUIs do you think occur because of weed vs. alcohol? How about kidney and liver failure? The hypocrisy of what is legal and what isn't is a bit ridiculous.

Right, but also take into account how many individual states pass laws to ban/allow gay marriages or abortions, and yea we're a ways away.

Btw, not to be a downer but if folks really want it legalized they should stop trying to make it state-level law. Federal law trumps state law in most cases, although I can't seem to remember the specific ruling unfortunately. But yea, people need to aim at Federal law, not just state.

EDIT: Found it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

 

[Sterling]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

Plus one to this. I recently figured out that any responsible adult can get high and still keep their job and home. It's not about the effects, it's about the mindset. I know several people who smoke regularly and not only hold down a job but also can pay all their bills while still using the drug recreationally. The mindset JAG has is one of a person who's never smoked (and probably never will either, pity) and of a child. Most adults understand that smoking can be used just as responsibly as alcohol, they just tell their children otherwise because it's illegal. I've never once heard from my parents that tobacco and alcohol are good. They've warned me of both of them, but they never threatened to disown me if I did them. Now, weed on the other hand... Now that I've talked to my dad, he's made it clear he only said those things because weed is an illegal drug. He's told me he's done it before and believes it needs to be legalized. I never expected those reactions when I was younger because they demonized it so much.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Smoking weed never killed a single person ever

Never said kill did I. Said bad for you/health.

 

[Thesolcity]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

Plus one to this. I recently figured out that any responsible adult can get high and still keep their job and home. It's not about the effects, it's about the mindset. I know several people who smoke regularly and not only hold down a job but also can pay all their bills while still using the drug recreationally. The mindset JAG has is one of a person who's never smoked (and probably never will either, pity) and of a child. Most adults understand that smoking can be used just as responsibly as alcohol, they just tell their children otherwise because it's illegal. I've never once heard from my parents that tobacco and alcohol are good. They've warned me of both of them, but they never threatened to disown me if I did them. Now, weed on the other hand... Now that I've talked to my dad, he's made it clear he only said those things because weed is an illegal drug. He's told me he's done it before and believes it needs to be legalized. I never expected those reactions when I was younger because they demonized it so much.

He's not too far off, actually. Any smart stoner will warn you about the tar that builds in your lungs after a while. I can't tell you how many people have just recommended vaporizing instead. Also, at least here in California, if you're caught with THC in your system through a random drug test or whatever they pull, most employers fire you on the spot. In most states, weed leaves you without a (decent) job due to loldrugtests unless you can find a way to synthesize some clean piss.

 

[Sterling]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

Plus one to this. I recently figured out that any responsible adult can get high and still keep their job and home. It's not about the effects, it's about the mindset. I know several people who smoke regularly and not only hold down a job but also can pay all their bills while still using the drug recreationally. The mindset JAG has is one of a person who's never smoked (and probably never will either, pity) and of a child. Most adults understand that smoking can be used just as responsibly as alcohol, they just tell their children otherwise because it's illegal. I've never once heard from my parents that tobacco and alcohol are good. They've warned me of both of them, but they never threatened to disown me if I did them. Now, weed on the other hand... Now that I've talked to my dad, he's made it clear he only said those things because weed is an illegal drug. He's told me he's done it before and believes it needs to be legalized. I never expected those reactions when I was younger because they demonized it so much.

He's not too far off, actually. Any smart stoner will warn you about the tar that builds in your lungs after a while. I can't tell you how many people have just recommended vaporizing instead.

I don't see anything in my post implying otherwise. >.>

 

[BlazeV]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

and you think drugs make you smarter? writing this probably means you taken drugs and don't want to admit they made you more stupid then if you didn't

 

[Thesolcity]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

Plus one to this. I recently figured out that any responsible adult can get high and still keep their job and home. It's not about the effects, it's about the mindset. I know several people who smoke regularly and not only hold down a job but also can pay all their bills while still using the drug recreationally. The mindset JAG has is one of a person who's never smoked (and probably never will either, pity) and of a child. Most adults understand that smoking can be used just as responsibly as alcohol, they just tell their children otherwise because it's illegal. I've never once heard from my parents that tobacco and alcohol are good. They've warned me of both of them, but they never threatened to disown me if I did them. Now, weed on the other hand... Now that I've talked to my dad, he's made it clear he only said those things because weed is an illegal drug. He's told me he's done it before and believes it needs to be legalized. I never expected those reactions when I was younger because they demonized it so much.

He's not too far off, actually. Any smart stoner will warn you about the tar that builds in your lungs after a while. I can't tell you how many people have just recommended vaporizing instead.

I don't see anything in my post implying otherwise. >.>

Mmm.....you're right, got ahead of myself there. Sorry bout that.

 

[BlazeV]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

Plus one to this. I recently figured out that any responsible adult can get high and still keep their job and home. It's not about the effects, it's about the mindset. I know several people who smoke regularly and not only hold down a job but also can pay all their bills while still using the drug recreationally. The mindset JAG has is one of a person who's never smoked (and probably never will either, pity) and of a child. Most adults understand that smoking can be used just as responsibly as alcohol, they just tell their children otherwise because it's illegal. I've never once heard from my parents that tobacco and alcohol are good. They've warned me of both of them, but they never threatened to disown me if I did them. Now, weed on the other hand... Now that I've talked to my dad, he's made it clear he only said those things because weed is an illegal drug. He's told me he's done it before and believes it needs to be legalized. I never expected those reactions when I was younger because they demonized it so much.

lol look at the crap written here, why is it suddenly stupid to not smoke and lose brain cells and get on the road to lung cancer yes its great for you. cmon kids lets get out there and start getting addicted to shit and stop breathing without a machine hooked up to you by the age of 30 yes its great for you.

 

[Sterling]

lol look at the crap written here, why is it suddenly stupid to not smoke and lose brain cells and get on the road to lung cancer yes its great for you. cmon kids lets get out there and start getting addicted to shit and stop breathing without a machine hooked up to you by the age of 30 yes its great for you.

I did because I wrote it. I never said it was stupid not to smoke. That is a choice that most people make. I made a pledge when I was young to try it once to say I had and guess what, I know why people get high. I now will light up every once in a while. The crap you just posted makes me think you're one of those people who smoked while young and resent this study. I never made any claims about it being good for you. Like every other drug out there, you're putting something into yourself that alters mind and body. Asprin and other anti-inflammatories/painkillers can cause liver failure along with every other helpful drug out there side effects are a very real issue. With moderation and proper dosage, such things can be effective treatments. The ignorance and stupidity you exude reflects in your typing. Please talk like you're at least a fully developed young adult.

 

[yuyuyup]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Smoking weed never killed a single person ever

Never said kill did I. Said bad for you/health.

If there is zero risk of death, how could it possibly be bad for your health ? What is an example of something bad for your health that doesn't put you at risk for death ?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I can't see how anyone can take this topic seriously, its already bloody obvious that smoking ANYTHING is already bad for you and if you need evidence to tell you its bad then your either really ignorant and will ignore what smarter and professional people say to save your health or your just too stupid to figure out how to stop taking drugs in the first place but if you are the latter I hope you live happily on the street begging for money.

Just because people don't smoke doesn't mean they're smarter. Hell, Bill Gates and Obama did a few drugs when they were younger, and look at them now.

Also, you're the ignorant one for thinking that everybody who smokes pot is going to end up on the streets. Get your head out of your ass.

and you think drugs make you smarter? writing this probably means you taken drugs and don't want to admit they made you more stupid then if you didn't

Did I SAY taking drugs make you smarter? I said that just because you smoke pot doesn't mean you're going to end up stupid or a failure in life. I told the other guy and I'm going to say it to you, get your head out of your ass and learn to read and understand shit before you post. You look like a moron and you make all the potheads look like genius's when you post like that. Also, the only drug I did was Weed, so don't say drugs. I'm guessing from the way you posted, you probably have done coke, maybe a bit of meth with a side dish of heroin sprinkled with some E?

 

[Densetsu]

What I'm really interested in is the original research article. The abstract is linked in the source, but you have to pay to view the full text

I've seen too many instances of researchers fudging their data in order to make the results seem more exaggerated than they really are. They don't necessarily make up the raw data, but they can manipulate the way the statistical data are calculated and presented in order to show the results that they want to show. Sometimes they do this so that they can continue to get grants for their research. Otherwise if they aren't producing results, no one is going to fund them.

Unless the writer of the news article verified that the study was valid (I highly doubt she did), the article means nothing without the raw data.

 

[BlueStar]

lol look at the crap written here, why is it suddenly stupid to not smoke and lose brain cells and get on the road to lung cancer yes its great for you. cmon kids lets get out there and start getting addicted to shit and stop breathing without a machine hooked up to you by the age of 30 yes its great for you.

How come the people pointing out it's perfectly possible to smoke cannabis recreationally and be both smart and successful are capable of forming a sentence and yet you type like you're the one with the neurological impairment?

I'm 31 and I'd say at least half of my friends smoke pot, probably about once a week. They're all employed, in a variety of jobs, and I'd say there's no correlation between which ones smoke and which do better. A lot of my friends are teachers, and I'd say a far higher percentage of them smoke weed than in other professions. In fact it seems to be the 'teacher drug'. When I used to work in a bar it was always groups of teachers who'd be coming in smelling of weed. At least it was better than policemen, firemen and soldiers, who we usually had to kick out for doing coke.

Not that my friends were the major stoners in school. I wonder how much of this study is "Smoking weed heavily when you're young lowers IQ" (Along with the part no-one seems to mention, that smoking lightly or waiting until you're older doesn't) and how much is "If you spend most of your school life doing something other than studying you won't turn out too bright."?

 

[xist]

That's an enormous difference. IQ is a normal curve not a linear relationship.

We're talking going from the 50th percentile to the 30th percentile.

I was being facetious about the benefit of IQ over the benefits of smoking cannabis....