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Canada Post is in strike, Trudeau wants to ruin democracy

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I think you need to read up on what democracy is. Democracy has nothing to do with rights. It's purely a voting system. That's it.
No, it's a whole package. "rule by the people". We vote for representatives and to silence your people is a first step to a dictatorship, is what most people mean. So yes, the "democracy" makes the rights here.
 

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No, it's a whole package. "rule by the people". We vote for representatives and to silence your people is a first step to a dictatorship, is what most people mean. So yes, the "democracy" makes the rights here.
Sure. But this isn't ruining democracy. As this isn't affecting how democracy works at all. So saying "trudeau wants to ruin democracy" is just a clickbait bs title.
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The CAQ? PROMISING? Let me laugh please. We just elected a government that promise to reduce the taxes of the rich and big company (increasing the rich-poor gap, eliminating the middle-class), and finance the private school instead of the public one (increasing even further the gap between the rich and poor, since the rich will get a better education and the poor will just have to stay poor).
IPhones. Unlimited knowledge of the world in your finger tips. 71% of Canadians own a smart phone.

In the United States 67% of people making less then $30,000 has a smart phone. The majority of people with lower income has a smart phone and numbers are growing every year, overall 77% has a smart phone.

Not having access to information and education isn’t an excuse anymore. And every year it’s getting smaller.
 
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iPhones. Unlimited knowledge of the world in your finger tips. 71% of Canadians own a smart phone.

In the United States 67% of people making less then $30,000 has a smart phone. The majority of people with lower income has a smart phone and numbers are growing every year.

Not having access to information education isn’t an excuse anymore. And every year it’s getting smaller.
Not to mention that even if you don't own a phone or a computer, there are things called books which are located in libraries. Funny concept, right? Anyways, every library I've been in has computers as well.

But the reason why people are poor and take welfare and stuff is because it's easy to do. The costs of trying to better yourself, meaning the cost of time and money isn't justified when we look at the rewards of doing so. Before, improving yourself would mean eating better meals and living in a nicer house, but when you many of the necessities of life paid for, what's the point? You can work and use the money you make to pay for nicer food to supplement the food you get as welfare, and while that's fine and dandy, but it just makes people complacent about their place in life.

We need to cut most taxes and programs to help the poor, because it's not helping them, it's hurting them. When continuously give an animal food, they become dependent on them, and humans are no different. When you get the 30 year olds living with their mothers, that's not because they can't leave the house, it's because they've become so used to living with their parents and having everything paid for them, why would they improve themselves and get a job, or go to school, or work more? The same goes for the government, just replace the 30 year old with a welfare recipient and the government with a parent. You need to push them out of the "house" and they'll either sink or swim, but it will be up to them to decide if they want to succeed or not.

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Also, I see no issue with Trudeau telling them to get back to work. It's their right to strike, and it's the employer's right to tell them to knock it off. The only reason this is a bill is because it's a federal service and not a private one. Individuals can leave the job if they want to, but if they try and continue to mess with the postal service as a worker of the postal service, they'll be slapped with a 1,000 dollar fine. It's 50,000 dollars if you're the manager or something like that. Also, if you don't pay the fine, you're not going to jail, but I don't know the specifics of it. All in all, the postal workers are being whiny bitches. They get paid extremely well, like an absurd amount for what amounts to driving a car or sorting mail. Huge difference between forcing them to go to work, and fining them for messing with the postal service while still employed.
 
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Not to mention that even if you don't own a phone or a computer, there are things called books which are located in libraries. Funny concept, right? Anyways, every library I've been in has computers as well.

But the reason why people are poor and take welfare and stuff is because it's easy to do. The costs of trying to better yourself, meaning the cost of time and money isn't justified when we look at the rewards of doing so. Before, improving yourself would mean eating better meals and living in a nicer house, but when you many of the necessities of life paid for, what's the point? You can work and use the money you make to pay for nicer food to supplement the food you get as welfare, and while that's fine and dandy, but it just makes people complacent about their place in life.

We need to cut most taxes and programs to help the poor, because it's not helping them, it's hurting them. When continuously give an animal food, they become dependent on them, and humans are no different. When you get the 30 year olds living with their mothers, that's not because they can't leave the house, it's because they've become so used to living with their parents and having everything paid for them, why would they improve themselves and get a job, or go to school, or work more? The same goes for the government, just replace the 30 year old with a welfare recipient and the government with a parent. You need to push them out of the "house" and they'll either sink or swim, but it will be up to them to decide if they want to succeed or not.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

Also, I see no issue with Trudeau telling them to get back to work. It's their right to strike, and it's the employer's right to tell them to knock it off. The only reason this is a bill is because it's a federal service and not a private one. Individuals can leave the job if they want to, but if they try and continue to mess with the postal service as a worker of the postal service, they'll be slapped with a 1,000 dollar fine. It's 50,000 dollars if you're the manager or something like that. Also, if you don't pay the fine, you're not going to jail, but I don't know the specifics of it. All in all, the postal workers are being whiny bitches. They get paid extremely well, like an absurd amount for what amounts to driving a car or sorting mail. Huge difference between forcing them to go to work, and fining them for messing with the postal service while still employed.
People say they are poor because Greedy corporations doesn’t pay them a living 15 Dollar Wage.

Walmart for example makes 495,761 billion Net Sales. This is not profit though.

After all operating costs they make 9,862 billion in profit. Only about 2% of the billions they make is actual profit.

Workers get paid first before CEO. Only CEO gets paid if they make profit.

If we took the 9.86 Billion in profit and spread it evenly to their 2.2 million employees, and factor in the average hours worked by Americans 1,790 a year, they would only get $2.50 an hour raise. And there won’t be any money left over for the CEO.

This would not cover the $15 minimum wage. They can’t afford it.

Doug McMillon makes 22 million a year. If you take his wages and divide it equally to the 2.2 million workers everyone will get a whole 11 dollars extra a year, WOW! Not enough to buy yourself a 3DS game. Not enough to lift anyone out of poverty. And he won’t have any money for himself either. Who cares he can find food in the trash.

Walmart 2018 Annual Report.
 
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People say they are poor because Greedy corporations doesn’t pay them a living 15 Dollar Wage.

Walmart for example makes 495,761 billion Net Sales. This is not profit though.

After all operating costs they make 9,862 billion in profit. Only about 2% of the billions they make is actual profit.

Workers get paid first before CEO. Only CEO gets paid if they make profit.

If we took the 9.86 Billion in profit and spread it evenly to their 2.2 million employees, and factor in the average hours worked by Americans 1,790 a year, they would only get $2.50 an hour raise. And there won’t be any money left over for the CEO.

This would not cover the $15 minimum wage. They can’t afford it.

Doug McMillon makes 22 million a year. If you take his wages and divide it equally to the 2.2 million workers everyone will get a whole 11 dollars extra a year, WOW! Not enough to buy yourself a 3DS game. Not enough to lift anyone out of poverty. And he won’t have any money for himself either. Who cares he can find food in the trash.

Walmart 2018 Annual Report.

Exactly, most companies in the USA operate on a very, VERY tight budget, and to say that just bumping up the minimum wage ignores this and also ignores the inflation that will occur because of it.
 

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