Can two .NDS files share the same .SAV?

Discussion in 'NDS - ROM Hacking and Translations' started by Raiser, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. Raiser

    Raiser I am mad scientist.

    May 31, 2008
    Is it possible to share a .SAV file with two .NDS files?
    I want both the FFIV with english voiceovers and the FFIV with Japanese voiceovers to share the same save file.
    I'm not sure if this is possible though...
    Is it?
  2. Sephi

    Sephi fool

    Jan 21, 2008
    United States
    Rhode Island
    Chances are yes.
  3. fischju

    fischju Rehabilitated Jaywalker

    Jan 11, 2008
    United States
    Not easily, as they both have to have the same name. You would have to move the save around, depending on what cart you have.
  4. ssj4gohan

    ssj4gohan Advanced Member

    Jul 8, 2008
    If both .NDS files share the same Rom-ID then it should be possible.
  5. Joey90

    Joey90 Not around any more

    Apr 21, 2007
    You can, but as it is usually NDSname.sav, both ROMs would need to be NDSname.nds, which wouldn't work in the same folder...

    So you would have to swap round the ROMs each time you wanted to switch.
  6. Cyan

    Cyan GBATemp's lurking knight

    Global Moderator
    Oct 27, 2002
    Engine room, learning
    or use DSOrganize to rename the save file to match the filename you want to play before you run the game.
  7. Raiser

    Raiser I am mad scientist.

    May 31, 2008
    But you know how some save files (for me anyways) are like: FINALF~1.SAV, right?
    Since it (Supercard DS ONE) takes the first six letters/digits in the name and adds a number (sometimes),
    what if I have the files like this:

    English --- > Final Fantasy IV.NDS
    Undubbed---> Final Fantasy IV2.NDS

    Would that work? (Since they both have the first 6 characters)
    Or does the "Final Fantasy IV2.NDS" just create a new save file with a different name?
  8. BassHubStyle

    BassHubStyle Member

    Oct 2, 2007
    Gambia, The
    It´s a different name,so it would make a new save [​IMG]
  9. Jackreyes

    Jackreyes Newbie

    Well there's only one way to find out... just try it.
  10. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

    pip Reporter
    Nov 21, 2005
    United States
    +1 to the names comments but I sense this may be ones of those "unable to see the forest for the trees" type of situations.

    Most carts I have seen tend to go by name of the rom and/or rom id (usually to generate a name for the save) so surely it is just a case of putting a hacked rom in a different folder to the original (or vice versa) for the name and for the rom id carts it should not matter.
    I have not been following the undubbing of FF4 but I doubt it is much more than a file swap perhaps with a bit of tweaking of the file(s) en route which means the binary and consequently save unchanged and the rom id is unchanged).
  11. bryehn

    bryehn GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Oct 26, 2004
    Just make a copy of the main save and rename it to the other rom's name. I've done it a bunch. Don't forget to copy the save back and forth when you switch roms though.
  12. Blued

    Blued Newbie

    Jul 3, 2008
    I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do so. An undub is just the original USA game with the audio files replaced, in this case they were replaced for the files of the Japanese version. However, you may have to rename your ROM to the same name of the .sav to use both. I've done this before with PS2 games and the saves worked fine, but I'm not sure if it is the same process for the DS.
  13. Benandanti

    Benandanti Advanced Member

    May 21, 2007
    In the older M3s (CF & SD), IIRC there was a way to designate a particular save location for each game in the game manager after you converted it, so by putting in the address of the same file you could effectively have 2 games running the same save, but I haven't seen an option like it in any of the newer cards.
  14. Frederica Bernkastel

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    Or, you could hex hack the config file (if there is one) or (try to ,if you're stupid like me, ...) compress both games together?
  15. Saitalv4.0

    Saitalv4.0 Member

    Jun 10, 2008
    United States
    Taylors, SC
    Most Carts actually have more tyhan one folder for Roms, but have a specific for the saves.
    That thought first crossed my mind with Pokemon Diamond and Pearl.
    I'm using a CycloDS, and thought about trying it. Easy way, have it in two folders, obviously using the folders as the original names and the file as whatever you want.
    (e.g.: PKMNDIAMOND\pkmndp and PKMNPEARL\pkmndp, with save folder being SAVES\)
    This for a fact works on the CycloDS (talking about Firmware 1.4Final or higher. I'm using 1.51 Beta with no beef) and most likely the Crappy-Doo R4DS... but the R4 is an assumption. Mine's been slagged for more than a year and since the CycloDS, I haven't even bothered.
  16. LagunaCid

    LagunaCid GBAtemp Fan

    May 14, 2008
    It's going to be FINALF~2.SAV
    Never used DOS? =p
  17. gosp

    gosp GBAtemp Regular

    Jun 29, 2008
    I know on the M3, the save is only found if the file name is exactly the same for the rom and the save file (not counting extensions).

    So... In the olden days, the slot 2 cards used *.ds.gba file extension rather than .nds. I'm not sure if that still works on slot one cards, but if you gave them the exact same name, differentiated only by the extension, you could play both while not worrying about any data errors from equivalent filenames.

    Therefore, you'd have three files... X.nds, X.ds.gba, and X.sav
  18. Fat D

    Fat D GBAtemp Maniac

    Nov 18, 2006
    the majority of flash carts actually dump the save file into the game folder, but the cyclo alt-saving is a good idea to realize this