can the dstt run other rom managers?

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Apr 30, 2008
  1. kek1234
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    Newcomer kek1234 Newbie

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    well im getting a dstt so idk if this will work yet or if it will royally screw over my dstt, but is it possible to load a different rom manager say the new itouchds interface (just an example) instead of the dstt manager provided as firmware off its site? both you download the manager through firmware, but the question is will they work? i dont think its been tried b4 or at least that i know of.

    im new here so if its been asked or talked about b4 just post a link and that'll be fine.
    or move this where you think this should go, im still unfamiliar with all the threads.
     
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    In general, a flash cart's firmware is specific to its hardware. So, no, you cannot use the iTouchDS menu with the DSTT.

    There is a homebrew menu system for the DSTT called YSMenu. YSMenu uses the official DSTT loader (which actually loads and runs the games), but has a custom user interface.

    The Supercard DS One apparently has very similar hardware to the DSTT, and therefore can run the DSTT menu and YSMenu. However, the DSTT cannot properly run the Supercard DS One menu system. It's possible someone might eventually be able to get the Supercard DS One menu to run on the DSTT but I don't know anyone who is trying to do that.

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    ty for the quick reply [​IMG]

    ill look into the ysmenu but still wouldn't mind trying to get the itouch menu to work on the dstt, just for fun. if it doesn't work do you think there'd be any risk causing permanent damage?
     
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    You'll probably get the "Menu?" icon that comes up when the DSTT can't find the menu. You'd have to probably rename the iTouch menu to TTMENU.DAT to get it to even attempt to load it, in which case it will probably whitescreen unless it turns out that the iTouch hardware is very similar to the DSTT hardware (I'm fairly certain it's not). But I don't know if it can possibly damage anything.

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    Since DSOrganize is free to modify with all those libraries around, do you think maybe with the src of that and the src of the ttmenu, you could make it run hardware specific as a bootable, all you would need is the srcs that would run the cheats, rumble, and expansion access. take two things that run will and combine them, or just use parts of DSO in the TTDS firmware/os....trying to find this stuff out myself
     
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    I'm not sure I understand your question.

    There are actually two parts to the firmware: the loader and the menu (graphical user interface). There are some custom menus for various carts, but they usually use the proprietary loaders that are part of the official firmware. So, you could potentially modify DSOrganize (or Moonshell) to act as a menu system, but you'd still need to use the official firmware's loader. That means that you couldn't add certain functionality that's not already built into the loader.

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    The os would be DSO, the loader would remain the same, but since it is the os side that controls how rumble or anything else would be activated, you could potentially modify dso to be the os of the dstt, and by additions, make it able to do everything that everyone is asking for, but it has to include the source of the original loader, much like yasu did for ysmenu by taking key files from the ttmenu.dat
     
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    Sure, you could, I suppose. I'm just not sure why you'd want to.

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    Just because it would be an end all to the complaining of what does what. You get YSMenu so that you can get a different menu style and folder views. You use DSO to obviously organize, webview, all kindsa stuff....just make a prog that does it all, or modify a prog to do it all, or mostly everything at least. just an idea i was looking into. doubt i'll ever really build it, but just thinking out loud.
     

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