Can someone not agree with a concept/idea/belief and not be a phobia?

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  1. ThePanchamBros
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    Ok, so just a random question. DO you guys thing someone can be against or not agree with a certain idea or belief? I personally do not think someone is phobic when not agreeing with a certain concept or idea.
     
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    Yeah this idea of "phobia" is just a way to size down people's legitimate concerns about an issue and make it seem like something totally unfounded and treat it like a fear. It's just a trend, really, that seems to have caught on in the mainstream media.
     
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    I actually know people who don't agree with same-sex marriage (for example,) but do not actively believe it should be banned and can be practiced. They just don't agree with the idea, but they aren't against it from happening. Which I don't think that makes them homophobic as they aren't doing it out of hatred nor are they actively trying to impose their personal believes on others.
     
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    phobia/-phobic can mean fear of something, dislike of something, or a property of something. an example would be hydrophobic materials.

    personally I think that language evolves so using the -phobic suffix for non-fears is fine.
     
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    I honestly think the biggest problem with our current culture, is that people believe if you disagree with something, that it makes you a bigot. When the truth is, you can simply disagree and not be a bigot. There's a difference between;
    "I don't agree with *blank*," but I am not against it."
    And
    "GOD HATES FAGS!"
     
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    Terms like 'homophobia' and 'transphobia' are misleading. You're not afraid, you're just an asshole.

    They're hardly equivalent with, say, claustrophobia or aracnophobia.
     
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    the suffix 'phobia' is overused. In terms of, say, homophobia, I think the proper term would be homomisia, as the suffix 'misia' is the hate of something.
     
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    Huh. I didn't know that. I think I'm gonna start using the -misia suffix instead of -phobia for words like that now.
     
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    I agree that phobia is a misnomer, but a lot of the English language is full of misnomers if you take root words literally. Fortunately, that's not how the language works. Homophobia, for example, refers to prejudice and dislike, not fear. Bisexual used to refer to the ability of an organism to literally become either sex, but that's not what the word means anymore.

    You could use misia instead of phobia, but then most people wouldn't know what you're talking about, and we all know what one means when he or she says homophobia.

    As for the original question, it depends on what one is talking about. For example, if a person has a preconceived negative opinion about homosexuality and/or homosexuals, that is prejudice, bigotry, and homophobia, all by definition. But to adequately answer the question, I would need more specifics.
     
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    I meself do not agree with pride parades.
    It sends out a wrong image.

    Kinda ironic if that makes me homophobic ;')
     
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    Labeling the opposition -phobic is another way the left attempts to shut down dissenters. They have no arguments - they cannot use logic, they must rely on censorship and emotion.
     
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    Pride parades are a stupid idea. It makes the LGBT+ community look like pushy asses.
     
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    Eh..
    That's exactly where I was going for?
     
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    This particular line falls under belief though. Obviously saying fags is just straight up rude, but some could say I believe in God, and God does not approve of homosexuality. Therefore, I should have the same opinion. I don't see anything wrong with that logic. However, homosexuals or pro LGBT would probably consider it as homophobia.
     
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    I would see "GOD HATES FAGS" as homophobic, but not "I don't agree with gay people due to my religion" as homophobic.
     
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    I don't agree with religion cause of me sexuality.
    It's equally stupid really.
     
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    Ya definitely, but the truth is; both sides are very defensive in what they believe in, what they support and that always resorts to personal attacks etc.

    Yes I'm generalising, because I've yet to see anti-LGBT and pro-LGBT actually have a normal debate regarding this topic.
     
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    Hey, I dislike Pride and the community that comes with it. And that apparently makes me an asshole. No, I'm seriously not straight, and I do believe in standing up for our rights (because the religious right seems to think that trampling all over our rights makes them better for it), I just don't like that Pride has become a tangled mess of tourists, big name artists and politicians to come in and use it as a platform for their agendas.

    Also, why the hell is Pride always loud and obnoxious? I always get tired at Pride because it's fulfilling every single stereotype of gay people.

    Edit: I'm going to the quieter version of it this year...seriously..
     
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    A phobia isn't just a fear, but an extreme or irrational fear. Most of the time people say or are said to have a phobia it is actually not the case and a misuse of the word/s.
     
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    I guess so. I believe people are slapping phobic on the end of anything to make you sound like a bad person if you argue with them these days.
     
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