can arm9loaderhax be patched by nintedo in a newer update if you update your sysnand

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  1. hacksn5s4
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    well a9lh is stored on the nandso if you update your sysnand with a newer update could nintedo make the new update brick your 3ds or overwrite a9lh
     
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  2. Davidosky99

    Davidosky99 Eevee :3

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    No. Cfws block firm 0 and firm1 updates or changes. And firm0/firm1 is where a9lh is located. As its blocked by cfws its impossible to Nintendo to remove a9lh unless they go to your house by themselves and restore a pre-a9lh backup
     
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    LinkSoraZelda GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    Couldn't they update another partition that would fail to start (like Home Menu) unless you had a certain version of the firm partitions?
     
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    Khangaroo $ORIGINALTITLE

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    CFWs are probably going to patch that.

    TL;DR: Nintendo right now
     
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    Aurora Wright the creator of AureiNAND has made her cfw where it can be used on any official Nintendo firmware that will come out in the future. In other words Nintendo can't do shit!
     
  6. astronautlevel

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    ARN now loads the firmware.bin from CTRNAND so that's no longer a problem.

    However, Nintendo could (though it's very unlikely) exploit their own kernel in order to overwrite FIRM0/1 back to stock.
     
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    If i'm not mistaken Nintendo will probably not want to do that.
     
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    That's why I said it's very unlikely. However, it is still possible that Nintendo can do something.
     
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    I think its pretty silly to say something like this.
    Nothing is flawless. There is ALWAYS a way.

    Just because you cannot think of a way right now does not mean that Nintendo won't find a way eventually.
    Now will Nintendo care enough to dedicate time & resources to finding a way? Thats another story.
     
  10. SomeGamer

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    And then somebody will update, then comes crying to GBAtemp and we'll know not to make the same mistake until a fix will be made.
     
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    The circle of "life".
     
  12. 4gionz

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    I don't think Nintendo can use a "kernel exploit" while updating to mess with us lol. In fact all that would do is introduce a new kernel exploit to the scene which we can then use to launch safea9lhinstaller and reinstall arm9loaderhax so no matter what it's over for Nintendo the 3ds is pwned for life
     
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    Well, they could always update firm0/firm1.. We block updates to it by patching AM:InstallFIRM (that or AM:InstallNativeFIRM, I forget which.). They could add a new AM command to install firm.
     
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    But if they do that, then we can RE their own kernel exploit and use it to reinstall A9LH :tpi:
     
  15. hacksn5s4
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    what if they make the new update brick your 3ds if you have a9lh
     
  16. ih8ih8sn0w

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    then we will switch to emunands or wait until someone works around it, like with early n3ds cfw
     
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    Use A9LH to restore?
     
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    Not if it bricks FIRM0/1.
     
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    Then I guess we better find a way to keep Nintendo away from firm0/1.
     
  20. TheKawaiiDesu

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    All major CFWs now prevent FIRM0 and FIRM1 from being written :P