Buy a SXOS Kit, and now?

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  1. r1ch4rd
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    Hello, guys...

    I buy a new nintendo switch unpatched and ordered a SXOS kit that should arrieve next week.
    I read a lot of tutorials, videos on youtube but still have some questions....

    I want to leave NAND as original and avoid to get ban, so the first thing that I have to do it's the backup of original NAND and creat a emuNAND?
    Or should I hack before do the emuNAND?

    To do a update just on emuNAND and avoid get ban, I have to update offline? Can I install the last uptade and keep the original NAND on 4.0.1?

    Any other tips to avoid get ban?

    Thanks
     
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    Always create a clean backup of your switch before any hacking. Then you can create EmuNAND and only update EmuNAND. Your SysNAND will stay on 4.0.1. Never go online while you're in EmuNAND. Update EmuNAND offline with ChoiDujourNX.
     
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  3. CanIHazWarez

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    Make a clean NAND backup first thing. Then create emunand and activate autoRCM. You can then update either NAND using ChoiDujourNX (that way you don't burn fuses). Never update using the official method or else YOU WILL BURN FUSES! Only do hacking and backup loading in emunand. Never go online in emunand.
     
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  4. r1ch4rd
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    I read in somewhere that when I update offline I should not use autoRCM, is that right? Can I uptade to the last version(8.0.1) or should I use other?

    Can I get any conflict not updating the original NAND? Should I take any precaution?

    About the fuses, could you pass me any article to read?

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH guys
     
  5. Hayato213

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    If you are using emunand, feel free to update that as much as possible, AutoRCM and fusee only apply to sysnand, using autoRCM preserve your sysnand fuse, you should only restore your sysnand firmware if your fuse count match with your firmware version match what is on the fuse table.


    https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Fuses
     
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  6. CanIHazWarez

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    Your first sentence is VERY incorrect. When you update using ChoiDujourNX, you NEED autoRCM (ChoiDujourNX adds it automatically). The reason is that the official bootloader does a fuse check every single time you boot. When it sees that you updated the firmware and didn't burn fuses, it WILL burn your fuses. You want as few fuses burned as possible on your system. autoRCM makes it so that you can only use a third-party bootloader, which bypasses the fuse check. You can load emunand or sysnand from the third party bootloader and your fuses will be safe. Updating to 8.0.1 is fine as long as you are running the latest beta version of SX OS (2.7.1). There is no issue with sysnand and emunand being on different firmwares. This is a good explanation of fuses:
     
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  7. gizmomelb

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    your second sentence is very incorrect.

    Once the emuNAND has been updated with ChoiDuJourNX you can DISABLED autoRCM and it will work fine. You do not NEED autoRCM at all with emuNAND.

    My sysNAND is at 3.0.2 and my emuNAND is at 7.0.1, I disabled autoRCM.
     
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    You don't need it, in the sense that it will work without it. You need it if you want to update without burning fuses. I suppose you could do without it if you don't ever update sysnand, but what would the point be? The only reason you would want to boot into sysnand is to play online, but you'd need to be on the latest firmware for that. Are you keeping your firmware low so that you can play carts without updating your card slot? Even then, there are better ways around it (and this situation doesn't apply to OP). If you are using emunand and have the sx dongle, I don't see what benefit you would gain from not having autorcm. That setup may work fine for you but I would not suggest it to other people because it's begging to have your fuses burned. You probably know what you're doing enough to avoid it, but most people won't.
     
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  9. nekkk

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    Hey man, one quick question, did you have to manually install exFAT on your 3.0.2 console?
     
  10. r1ch4rd
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    But if I eventually boot on original NAND, I have to take off my microSD? or I always has to boot in RCM mode after update the emuNAND even if I wanna boot on original one?

    Now I'm confuse hahah
    When I uptade with ChoiDuJourNX I have to check the autoRCM box in instalation to prevent burn fuses and after that I can disable? Or I always have to has autoRCM mode on?

    Thanks to everyone!
     
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  11. Hayato213

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    Well if they don't want to use autorcm, then they need a jig, if the person had a modchip along with autoboot and autorcm, they can autoboot into emunand from being completely powered off. AutoRCM other feature is for fuse burning prevention, not really need it for emunand, as you would update to the latest on emunand.
     
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  12. r1ch4rd
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    I still not get it the fuse parts and the AutoRCM parts of hacking, I'll study more.

    from what i understand the AutoRCM prevent burn fuses, but as I'll update the emuNAND the AutoRCM will be not necessary. Would be if I do the update on the original NAND? right?

    Thanks everyone.
     
  13. gizmomelb

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    I'd have to check.. I know I definitely installed the exFAT firmware option in my emuNAND - BUT I only use FAT32 formatted SD card (exfat support both formats by the way) due to exFAT likelihood of corruption.

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    yes, autoRCM is needed if you want to upgrade your system NAND to a newer firmware BUT keep it so you can downgrade to older versions for firmware for the elusive ''warm boot'' exploit.

    persoanll I've kept my sysem firmware at 3.0.2 and I never go online. I've done this more for potential resale on my switch rather than waiting for a coldboot exploit.

    However IF you're going to take your sysNAND online then why not just update to 8.0.1 anyways without using CoiDuJourNX? As said, the likelihood of a coldboot exploit is next to nil. If you want to play online using 8.0.1 all of the CFW solutions support 8.0.1 exploits.. so may as well upgrade I guess.

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    even if you want to use autoRCM you still need a jig and usb dongle / pc / phone to inject the payload initially.

    I disbaled autoRCM after initial emuNAND update on my switch and I've had to use the jibg maybe 3 times in almost a year.... the switch is on standaby / sleep mode and then put on the charger once a week or so when it is not in use.
     
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  14. Hayato213

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    Fuse rule only applies to sysnand, if you accidentally update your system firmware via Nintendo server it burn your fuse. With autoRCM it put the switch into RCM 100% of the time. For emunand it doesn't matter if it on autorcm, leave it on autorcm only if you don't want to use a jig all the time.

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    That true, but I still really like the modchip option with autoRCM and autoboot w/hekate to boot up what I have specific to coldboot.
     
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  15. r1ch4rd
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    Hey guys, I read a lot of things about the offline updates and efuses, And what I understand is:

    If you update offline the emuNAND you don't has to worry about burning efuses because you can only access the emuNAND by the RCM mode and as the sysNAND isn't update, when you boot normaly you don't have to worry about burning efuse, cause your NAND is original. Is that right?

    Burning efuses just ocuried when you update you sysNAND and bot normally.

    So the autoRCM isn't necessary at all. Right?
    Or I can burn efuse even updating emuNAND?

    Thanks
     
  16. CanIHazWarez

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    Correct. Although, I'm not sure why you wouldn't want autoRCM.
    Don't listen to this. If you update your sysnand (even using ChoiDujourNX) and your system EVER boots normally (as in, not booting into RCM and injecting a payload), you will burn fuses.
     
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  17. Hayato213

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    Well that is because you aren't not using autoRCM, of course you would burn fuse if you boot into ofw without a bootloader, after a system update by Nintendo server it boot into OFW, you burn fuse that way.
     
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    But I'll not update my OFM, just the emuNAND.

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    And what about exFAT formatation, Its really necessary? I have to prepare my switch isnt?
     
  19. Hayato213

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    You can update the emunand as much as you want with ChoidujourNX, exFAT is more corruption prone, I switched from exFAT to FAT32.
     
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  20. punderino

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    and winner of the weirdest emuNAND setup goes to gizmo!
     
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