I had previously had 3.2U and HBC along with Gamma .3 on my system and it has been working great. I had some people tell me to update to 4.1 and use one of the new USB loaders that "I would not regret it" So I waited until a good guide came out for the process and found the ultimate system menu guide posted here and tried to follow it. I went from start to end even though I could have started about half way. I had one error when trying to downgrade IOS 16 but it didnt seem to have any effect. I opted for the offline system menu update method and when I used the program to download the files I accidentally chose 4.1E not 4.1U. Keep in mind I was busy with the kids running around and just doing this a few minutes at a time. I saw "J" and "E" and thought "Japanese" "English" it didnt occure to me it was region not language. I finished the guide and that also included installing preloader .29 and all seemed well. When I went to go into my wii settings I got the opera browser error thing. I googled up on the error and saw it was an error for having the wrong system menu region on your system... so back to google and found out that my system menu should have been 4.1U not 4.1E.... easy fix right? Downloaded the 4.1U files, put them on my SD card went into WAD manager, uninstalled 4.1E and then installed 4.1U. Reboot and no system menu! I have been though the process a few times now, installing every single IOS/cIOS and tried several system menu versions. Nothing I do gets me back to working. The Good - I have bootmii installed this is the only reason I can even use my Wii right now, I can boot directly into the homebrew channel to do things. More Good - Boot into HBC from BootMii and then run NeoGamma and I can still play my games! Once the game starts I can even pair/use my wiimotes like normal. The Bad - I did the NAND backup first before anything else but right after I installed the wrong system menu version I went to restore and it said it could not find my backup??? somehow it never saved to the card or I erased it when placing files on the SD card. More Bad - I guess due to the corrupted system menu my wiimote WILL NOT work it refuses to pair with the system no matter what I do while in the HBC so that means any program that requires the use of it I cant use. Seems all the Walinko stuff use the wiimote, lucky for me I found a modified v1.5 WAD manager that added gamecube controller support so that has been what I use to try to fix this. But I cant use many other important programs. So thats the situation. All I can think of doing now is to use somebody elses NAND backup to resstore my system, I heard this may work and that it may not work. Also I thing it maybe possible to get a working system menu I just need to find what the one important file/step I am missing is to make it work. As a last resort I am thinking of trying SoftMii or something similar that uses its own custom system menu and IOS files, but before I do this I want feedback on if you guys think it will work, and the installl process can not require the wiimote, it has to work with the gamecube controller.