Boy Scouts will now allow girls to join.

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  1. HamBone41801

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    They drop the name boy to be more gender inclusive and now they are getting sued. I also remember the complaint having the word man in policeman and fireman was sexist. So they drop it to be more inclusive. There’s no point in calling it Boy Scouts anymore when girls are admitted now.

    The scouts was always about learning skills and being away from parents on your own to learn to work together and deal with world problems.

    They complained that girls were not allowed on the Boy Scouts, but Venture Scouts existed, where boys and girls can mix. Venture Scouts was one of the core programs of Boy Scouts of America, so why complain about Boy Scouts not letting girls in? I dunno.

    There is a program for strictly boys that catered to things boys like, and one for both girls and boys. This whole Boy Scouts not letting girls in complaint was unessesary to begin with.
     
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    I was actually talking about the girl scouts. a dumb lawsuit like this is only gonna make people hate them more. letting girls into what used to be the boy scouts was a pretty smart move.
     
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    Maybe now they shouldn't allow them if they're going to pusillanimously sue them. Douche move on their part.
     
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    "Now"? In Italy are decades that girls can be Scouts
     
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    It's not that; it's that before, there were separate Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts, but the Boy Scouts started letting girls in as well.
     
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    that makes zero sense. they aren't being sued by children from the female half of the species, they're being sued by an uncaring super-corp that that manipulates said small children to peddling their crap. its kinda concerning that the first thing that pops into your brain is "punish the little girls!"
     
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    They did let them in under Venture Scouts. One for just purely boys, and one for boys and girls to mix.

    The reason why 2 separate scouts formed was to have activities that caters to different genders. Focusing on 2 genders takes more time and effort then focusing on 1. Your more efficient having speperate scouts then lumping everyone together.

    It’s like putting bright students and kids that move at a slow pace together. If the teacher moves too fast then slow learning student will be left behind. If teachers moves at a slow pace then bright students becomes bored, restless, and falls behind on grades, sometimes put on medication for being too energetic. So they created seperate classes that caters to needs of different learning styles. That’s also why 2 separate scouts formed in the first place. Different activities for different genders.
     
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    Girl scouts
     
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    but that was done under the assumption that girls and boys will always want completely different things, which is obviously untrue, so the example you used doesn't really fit. it would be more like there is a fast moving and slow moving class, but kids are assigned randomly. sure, it'll work sometimes, but other times it'll just screw over the kids.

    as for venture scouts, I really hadn't heard of it till now, so my guess is that there aren't that many troops.
     
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    Kids aren’t assigned randomly, they take tests to see where to be placed. There is certain requirements to make it in honors classes and top private schools.

    It’s also untrue that they always want the same thing.

    Then merge Boy Scouts and Girls Scouts. Having two separate scouts will makes it pointless if they don’t have different interests.

    I think having one group mostly boys and another having mixed provides a good middle ground, instead of full on merging. It’s keeps differences of opinions satisfied.
     
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    exactly. no argument there. my entire point has been that the kids should have a choice, and its in both companies interests to let them.

    yea, that would be dumb. that was my point.

    I never said they should do the same stuff, i think that would hurt both of them in the long run.
     
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    Ah this makes me sad. Boys and girls are different, and the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts were founded with those differences in mind. Now the idea of "men can do anything a woman can do" and "woman can do anything a man can do" is the prevailing thought nowadays. Dumb shit :c
     
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    umm... no time to waste on a post like this to read every reply, so forgive me if these two points were pointed out already, but...

    1) The Boy Scouts have always discriminated, and not just with gay boys. They also kicked people out in the past just for not believing in God.

    2) The Girl Scouts STARTED the outcry, and in fact, threatened a lawsuit for using the name "Scouts" without the preceding "Boy" (yea... so much for this "equality" that feminists *say they want, but they would rather discrimination to be more prevalent than ever, just flipped around in their favor).
     
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    So, when are we going to get more female waste collectors? 99% of them are men. If we stop calling them "Trash Man", do you think we'll have 50/50 male and female waste collectors?!

    https://foresternetwork.com/msw-management-magazine/ms-waste/ms-waste-collection/women-in-waste/
     
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    While I might still be willing to hear arguments on how in spite of that it is still beneficial for forcing or allowing boys and girls to be separated/mixed, and would simultaneously not be surprised to hear most of those actually pushing for the original change did not give a flying fuck about joining/having their kids join I don't know if I can go there.

    Looking at what the groups do they appear to do different things -- group formerly known as the boy scouts doing survival type things and the girl scouts doing more arts and crafts, community activities and other such things. I imagine the appeal is predominantly along gender lines but I know it not to be exclusive to it (mainly as I once was involved with a group called the woodcraft folk that had plenty of young girlies involved and seemingly enjoying it... and as far as their activities go the clue is in the name).

    Does that mean we have to stop calling it feminism if it is about gender equality now?
     
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