Bob's Saga continues; contract with Chinese firm?

[War]

"We've been following the Bob's Game drama for a while now, and it's just taken another weird/potentially controversial turn. After sealing himself in his bedroom (see: above) in a bid to obtain a development kit from Nintendo, Bob's Game creator Robert Pelloni recently threatened to release his "masterpiece" on a DSi-compatible flash cart, thus "significantly cut[ting] into Nintendo's bottom line."

Now, in a selectbutton forum thread, Pelloni claims that a Chinese firm has approached him and offered to release Bob's Game on a flash cart, and says that a distribution deal with Wal-Mart could be on the cards.

Pelloni argues that such a move means both parties win: he gets his game onto store shelves, while the mysterious Chinese company has a legitimate reason to sell a flash cart in a major retailer. We would argue that his actions are quickly severing any potential future ties that could exist between himself and Nintendo.

We also advise giving the thread in question a quick read, if only for the part where Pelloni indirectly compares himself to Shigeru Miyamoto."

Source

 

[tinymonkeyt]

dang. why is he so persistent -.-

btw. how would walmart permit some chinese company to sell flashcarts?
they ARE illegal afterall.

 

[p1ngpong]

Lol he needs to be careful, that company could easily steal his game, give him no money and sell it for just their own profit.

 

[Canonbeat234]

Lol he needs to be careful, that company could easily steal his game, give him no money and sell it for just their own profit.

Hey isn't that like how all crooked business deals does it these days. I won't be surprised if that happen

 

[TLSpartan]

dang. why is he so persistent -.-

btw. how would walmart permit some chinese company to sell flashcarts?
they ARE illegal afterall.

Flashcarts are not illegal for the billionth time. Playing ROM's that you do not own the original game for is however (99.99% of flashcarts are used for this). He has a slim chance now that Nintendo picks him up but I highly doubt it as he is acting like a small child.

 

[Cermage]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. places like wallmart could simply refuse to sell the game if nintendo paid them enough.

 

[Talaria]

This guy has ego issues, the game looks nice could be brilliant but we'll probably never know. If it is released by the mysterious Chinese company I would be interested to see how well it's received.

Spoiler

-Conversation with a Nintendo Employee and Robert Pelloni enquiring for a developers license-
Robert Pelloni (Maker of Bob's Game): Hello there good sir!
Nintendo Service Desk worker:...hey?
Robert: So you heard of Bob's Game?
Nintendo Service Desk worker: huh? No sorry I haven't, how may I help you?
Robert: It's only the single mostly biggest game ever made by one person. Anywho, I made this game all by myself. It took me 5 years! 5 years of hard work I had to sacrifice going to the prom, socialising with friends and sometimes even eating but only cause my game is that great. It's a masterpiece! And did I tell you I composed all the music by myself. Anyway it's the game which I can't actually show you as you'll probably steal it. Because of you I have to sleep with my blanky, just to comfort me in case you send your Nintendo Ninja's in the middle of the night to steal my work. Don't think I don't know about your highly trained Ninja Employee's, I'm on to you! (Crazed look in his bloodshot eyes which situate on his incredibly white almost transparent skin induced from 5 years without sun)

Meanwhile the poor unlucky Nintendo chap who unfortunately landed this shift at the front desk had quite a vacant stare which showed a little smidgen of pity for the poor Robert guy but the stare mainly had a "wtf?!" connotation.

....Now where were we oh we're about a 1/500 of the way through Robert's rant, I would love to return back to the scene and let you listen to the rant about why the game is so awesome but quite frankly I don't get paid enough to write an thesis length article. All I ask of you is to shed some sympathy for the poor Nintendo Employee who suffered this predicament, at the moment I hear he's in a stable condition and should make somewhat of a full recovery. Thank yuu for listening....oh god did I just spell it...............


*Ahem* Sorry for the abrupt ending of article before but as the newly appointed writer I ask of you to also shed some sympathy for the previous writer's family, after mispelling the word "you" as "yuu" he quite literally jumped off the nearest cliff. Officials said he would've felt little pain from the impact as it would've been an instantaneous death

 

[Heran Bago]

"I know, I will try to gain the respect and favor of a Japanese company by exhibiting extreme NEET / hikikomori / autistic behavior. Surely this will end well!

No? Well then I will make a contract with a Chinese company and ignore the the Nintendo seal of quality and any legal precedents. They are Chinese bootleggers and say they can get it on Wallmart shelves, so surely I can trust these men!"


The guy is desperate. As far as legal precedence though, it might be fair game. They don't need to be flash carts, but the biggest likelihood is cheap ROMs. We have seen bootleg DS games in the wild, it's not beyond the ability of Chinese bootleggers.

how would walmart permit some chinese company to sell flashcarts?
they ARE illegal afterall.

Wrong. Come on tinymonkeyt I expect better.

 

[psycoblaster]

Lol this is getting exciting. It feels as if I'm reading a book, and a new chapter is being written every few days.
Seriously, I think all this guy wants to do is to release his work and earn some money. It's not only Rob being stupid - Nintendo's no different. Just give him the damn nitrospk.

 

[tinymonkeyt]

dang. why is he so persistent -.-

btw. how would walmart permit some chinese company to sell flashcarts?
they ARE illegal afterall.

Flashcarts are not illegal for the billionth time. Playing ROM's that you do not own the original game for is however (99.99% of flashcarts are used for this). He has a slim chance now that Nintendo picks him up but I highly doubt it as he is acting like a small child.

im pretty sure having the cart itself is illegal in some countries
or maybe im just delusional in the wee hours of the night

and with the recent lawsuit Nintendo filed against the R4 company
(if flashcarts are not illegal, how can nintendo sue R4 for the production of it?)
i'd doubt walmart wants to be involved with bobs game anyway

 

[Talaria]

dang. why is he so persistent -.-

btw. how would walmart permit some chinese company to sell flashcarts?
they ARE illegal afterall.

Flashcarts are not illegal for the billionth time. Playing ROM's that you do not own the original game for is however (99.99% of flashcarts are used for this). He has a slim chance now that Nintendo picks him up but I highly doubt it as he is acting like a small child.

im pretty sure having the cart itself is illegal in some countries
or maybe im just delusional in the wee hours of the night

and with the recent lawsuit Nintendo filed against the R4 company
(if flashcarts are not illegal, how can nintendo sue R4 for the production of it?)
i'd doubt walmart wants to be involved with bobs game anyway

Because R4 used copyrighted code to bypass the health and safety screen

 

[Heran Bago]

dang. why is he so persistent -.-

btw. how would walmart permit some chinese company to sell flashcarts?
they ARE illegal afterall.

Flashcarts are not illegal for the billionth time. Playing ROM's that you do not own the original game for is however (99.99% of flashcarts are used for this). He has a slim chance now that Nintendo picks him up but I highly doubt it as he is acting like a small child.

im pretty sure having the cart itself is illegal in some countries
or maybe im just delusional in the wee hours of the night

and with the recent lawsuit Nintendo filed against the R4 company
(if flashcarts are not illegal, how can nintendo sue R4 for the production of it?)
i'd doubt walmart wants to be involved with bobs game anyway

There has been no actual lawsuit yet afaik. Just Nintendo talking big. In law there is something called "precedent." Previous cases as well as law determine it. Codemasters (and even Activision from the 80s) have won this in US courts, and other companies (Datel?) get away with making products without a license so long as they don't use anything copyrighted in the construction. The thing is it's REALLY risky for vendors sales-wise. The way it stands these days is the device is legal until you use it illegally. Vendors can get nailed for not doing their taxes right or going over US customs' head. Customs hates them.

I heard australia and some other countries have banned modchips, but that's another ball game. What countries have outlawed flash carts? Do you have any proof because I'm really interested, I keep up with the law on this stuff and there's a lot of misinformation.


e: To answer your question, Nintendo can sue on a large variety of grounds. It's a civil matter; people are allowed to sue each other. If they succeed or not is a different story, but I can't find anything about an actual lawsuit.

e2: looked it up, lawsuit is filed but hasn't happened yet. R4 not yet illegal and still in akihabara shops.

e3: lol?

 

[hankchill]

This guy is way too persistent... no offense to him or anything, but I saw the video of his game in "action", and it looked boring. I wouldn't want to play it all the way through. Robert is wasting his time, and is being rather unprofessional about it. he's acting like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum because they couldn't get a toy at the store.

Oh, this just in! Nintendo employees are locking themselves in because the White House won't let them be president!

 

[pieman202]

dang. why is he so persistent -.-

btw. how would walmart permit some chinese company to sell flashcarts?
they ARE illegal afterall.

Flashcarts are not illegal for the billionth time. Playing ROM's that you do not own the original game for is however (99.99% of flashcarts are used for this). He has a slim chance now that Nintendo picks him up but I highly doubt it as he is acting like a small child.

im pretty sure having the cart itself is illegal in some countries
or maybe im just delusional in the wee hours of the night

and with the recent lawsuit Nintendo filed against the R4 company
(if flashcarts are not illegal, how can nintendo sue R4 for the production of it?)
i'd doubt walmart wants to be involved with bobs game anyway

There has been no actual lawsuit yet afaik. Just Nintendo talking big. In law there is something called "precedent." Previous cases as well as law determine it. Codemasters (and even Activision from the 80s) have won this in US courts, and other companies (Datel?) get away with making products without a license so long as they don't use anything copyrighted in the construction. The thing is it's REALLY risky for vendors sales-wise. The way it stands these days is the device is legal until you use it illegally. Vendors can get nailed for not doing their taxes right or going over US customs' head. Customs hates them.

I heard australia and some other countries have banned modchips, but that's another ball game. What countries have outlawed flash carts? Do you have any proof because I'm really interested, I keep up with the law on this stuff and there's a lot of misinformation.


e: To answer your question, Nintendo can sue on a large variety of grounds. It's a civil matter; people are allowed to sue each other. If they succeed or not is a different story, but I can't find anything about an actual lawsuit.

e2: looked it up, lawsuit is filed but hasn't happened yet. R4 not yet illegal and still in akihabara shops.

e3: lol?

modchips are not banned in australia they are actually legal here and to mod it is legal too ^^

 

[Noitora]

Bob fails harder in every thread.

 

[UltraMagnus]

Lol he needs to be careful, that company could easily steal his game, give him no money and sell it for just their own profit.

well..... that's not much worse than how most game companies treat their programmers.... cougheacough

 

[iPikachu]

This guy has ego issues, the game looks nice could be brilliant but we'll probably never know. If it is released by the mysterious Chinese company I would be interested to see how well it's received.

Spoiler

-Conversation with a Nintendo Employee and Robert Pelloni enquiring for a developers license-
Robert Pelloni (Maker of Bob's Game): Hello there good sir!
Nintendo Service Desk worker:...hey?
Robert: So you heard of Bob's Game?
Nintendo Service Desk worker: huh? No sorry I haven't, how may I help you?
Robert: It's only the single mostly biggest game ever made by one person. Anywho, I made this game all by myself. It took me 5 years! 5 years of hard work I had to sacrifice going to the prom, socialising with friends and sometimes even eating but only cause my game is that great. It's a masterpiece! And did I tell you I composed all the music by myself. Anyway it's the game which I can't actually show you as you'll probably steal it. Because of you I have to sleep with my blanky, just to comfort me in case you send your Nintendo Ninja's in the middle of the night to steal my work. Don't think I don't know about your highly trained Ninja Employee's, I'm on to you! (Crazed look in his bloodshot eyes which situate on his incredibly white almost transparent skin induced from 5 years without sun)

Meanwhile the poor unlucky Nintendo chap who unfortunately landed this shift at the front desk had quite a vacant stare which showed a little smidgen of pity for the poor Robert guy but the stare mainly had a "wtf?!" connotation.

....Now where were we oh we're about a 1/500 of the way through Robert's rant, I would love to return back to the scene and let you listen to the rant about why the game is so awesome but quite frankly I don't get paid enough to write an thesis length article. All I ask of you is to shed some sympathy for the poor Nintendo Employee who suffered this predicament, at the moment I hear he's in a stable condition and should make somewhat of a full recovery. Thank yuu for listening....oh god did I just spell it...............


*Ahem* Sorry for the abrupt ending of article before but as the newly appointed writer I ask of you to also shed some sympathy for the previous writer's family, after mispelling the word "you" as "yuu" he quite literally jumped off the nearest cliff. Officials said he would've felt little pain from the impact as it would've been an instantaneous death

IS THERE MORE?!damn so interesting

This guy is way too persistent... no offense to him or anything, but I saw the video of his game in "action", and it looked boring. I wouldn't want to play it all the way through. Robert is wasting his time, and is being rather unprofessional about it. he's acting like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum because they couldn't get a toy at the store.

Oh, this just in! Nintendo employees are locking themselves in because the White House won't let them be president!
IM LOCKING MY SELF IN TEH ROOM FOR 100 DAYS IF YOU DONT GIVE ME SOMETHING, YAR FOOL!

QUOTE(Noitora @ Jan 6 2009, 06:14 PM)

Bob fails harder in every thread.

+1

 

[Osaka]

why is it so hard to make a game for nintendo? I dont really get it... how did 99% of the crap games get on the wii and DS, and a game that someone actualy put some time into is being denied?

 

[Toni Plutonij]

why is it so hard to make a game for nintendo? I dont really get it... how did 99% of the crap games get on the wii and DS, and a game that someone actualy put some time into is being denied?

Hmmm, this is the very same question I'm curious about..
Aside Roberts sanity, how come Nintendo is so firm about not getting this game released..I mean, NDS has really, but really big count of crappiest games you could ever see!! I don't think that Nintendo would be in any loss if they just sell him Nitro!!

I know that this is now matter of principals, but I'm still dazzled..
And if this game really gets to Walmart on flashcarts!! Damn, that would be really bad..It would bring piracy, and availability of flashcarts to new level!
I'd hate that!

 

[Noitora]

why is it so hard to make a game for nintendo? I dont really get it... how did 99% of the crap games get on the wii and DS, and a game that someone actualy put some time into is being denied?

Hmmm, this is the very same question I'm curious about..
Aside Roberts sanity, how come Nintendo is so firm about not getting this game released..I mean, NDS has really, but really big count of crappiest games you could ever see!! I don't think that Nintendo would be in any loss if they just sell him Nitro!!

I know that this is now matter of principals, but I'm still dazzled..
And if this game really gets to Walmart on flashcarts!! Damn, that would be really bad..It would bring piracy, and availability of flashcarts to new level!
I'd hate that!

Nintendo said that they won't give developer's licenses to one-man teams and whoever wants to create his own game there's Wiiware and DSiWare...or something along these lines.