Everybody says they confirmed them not working for iXtreme 1.4 and 1.5 but nobody really mentioned previous versions... Well I confirmed them not working for iXtreme 1.3. (it thinks my game is a video DVD) I guess it's an expected behaviour for all iXtreme versions prior to 1.51 and supposedly all Xtreme firmwares will run 3rd wave games fine. I find it quite amusing that people are talking about "added security features" in newest version firmwares and yet I'm still not banned while using 1.3. Playing online, buying stuff from marketplace, trying to run a couple bad burns, using practically obsolete old firmware all combined was not enough to get myself banned. For the sake of running new games, I'll get the new firmware. About time I guess. Hopefully third wave is actually the last wave.