Bee in my bonnet.....

[Darkforce]

I've been annoyed by this for a long time but I had to get it off my chest and so while restraining myself from using any strong language I will try to explain why I am so angry (Please imagine some words in a much stronger context to show how I really feel about the situation) with you and the rules.

I'll use the suspension of arunforce as an example. Now you banned him for talking about and requesting warez sites (As you yourself said in the last post of this thread and this). But was he doing anything that was against the rules....? No!

Now looking over the rules (here) it says and I quote:

Warez , Crackz and Serialz
Links to illegal software will be removed together with illegal stuff such as serials and cracks. Keep the board clean.
NO Psx, DC, Ps2, X-Box ISOS. NO PC games.

Now arunforce wasn't posting links to any warez...he hasn't done anything wrong. Posting Rom requests or links may be wrong but then he wasn't asking for roms was he?

So you basically suspended a guy even though he didn't break the rules. You wrote the rules....you only have yourself to blame.

This leads me onto my other concern....... dispite the fact that you wrote these rules you decide to totally ignore them, not only by suspending an innocent member but by ignoring the rules yourself....

Of course I'm talking about the thread of GBA scene links which contains links to roms or links to sites that contains link to roms (well most of them, seeing how some don't work any more) (here).

Now excuse me but I believe that placing links to roms is against the forum rules:

QUOTENO ROMS REQUESTS OR LINKS!
You are not allowed to ask for roms or put links to roms. When you are searching for a rom you have 2 choiches: 1)look at the GBA Scene links , 2) Go on MIRC , read the complete FAQ HERE

So you expect everyone to obey your rules even though you can't keep them yourself. Not a great example to set......and you wonder why people still request and post rom links? Then you suspend someone who is actually obeying the rules......

I'm gonna keep my comments about what I think of you to myself (and no they're not very pleasant), but if something could be sorted out over this situation then that would be great (BTW it's pointless making a witty comment like banning me because I'm on a dial-up modem and my ip changes everytime I dial up

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[Goshogun]

he was asking for ISO links...

u didnt read his 2 topics in the GBATemp Jail??

 

[neocat]

That's not the point
1. This forum is about GBA not other consoles
2.he was only suspended for 24 hours it's only a warning (he wasn't banned)
3. the no rom links policy is for direct links where you click on the link and the rom starts downloading, if you post links to SITES with roms it's not wrong

 

[Darkforce]

he was asking for ISO links...

u didnt read his 2 topics in the GBATemp Jail??

 

[xero]

Wow, everyone hates Kivan now.

 

[neocat]

2. But he was still punnished......
3. Then how come KiVan removed many links to GBA rom sites from others posts? [sarcasm]No.... it has nothing to do with the fact that they have GBA roms on is it? It's just a "coincidence"[/sarcasm].

I'll give you the win on nr 1...
2. He was punished because it's clear: no ISOS... no begging, no linking
3. because why must I think of a reason?...
the ones on the link page he made can be considered this site's affilliates and not a link to rom sites for the sole purpose of downloading them whereas in other contexts they might be considered so

 

[Darkforce]

Wow, everyone hates Kivan now.

 

[xero]

What the heck is it with people just not accepting the fact someone was banned/suspended/etc? You don't run the boards, so therefore I'd think it's safe to say that you have no input. Let the mods/admins do their job and shut up already.

And would you put up with someone who posts 5-6 times in 1 thread begging for links to ISO sites? Hell, beggin for anything? I certainly wouldn't, and I'd have much less mercy than the staff here. All it would have taken was 1 person to post a link and there would have been an issue.

 

[neocat]

Yes he is...
If we wants to beg let him go to a warez forum...
The main problem is that he didn't post anything GBA related...
Let's say he had made 10 GBA posts and then asked for ISOS once... it wouldn't be too bad

 

[xero]

Just caught this...

I'm gonna keep my comments about what I think of you to myself (and no they're not very pleasant), but if something could be sorted out over this situation then that would be great (BTW it's pointless making a witty comment like banning me because I'm on a dial-up modem and my ip changes everytime I dial up Â.)

Well, I know some webboards will allow the administrator to set a block of IPs as banned and allow restricted access by username, which in effect would ban you. Hopefully that can be used here if things get really really bad.

 

[shaunj66]

Someone really has way too much time on their hands.

 

[neocat]

Well, I know some webboards will allow the administrator to set a block of IPs as banned and allow restricted access by username, which in effect would ban you. Hopefully that can be used here if things get really really bad.Â

No because if the admin banned loads of IP's h'd also be banning innocent users from the same ISP as for different nicknames you can just make another account

 

[Darkforce]

Xero- True I have no input, and I never expected anything to be done, but as a member I felt the need to raise the topic. On GBAetc and other forums we make an attempt to listen to our members rather than have the forum run in an autocratic way by power hungry admins.

Coolcat- That's not the point.....the point is that he didn't break the rules yet got punnished, yet KiVan can't even stick to them himself.

 

[xero]

Well, I know some webboards will allow the administrator to set a block of IPs as banned and allow restricted access by username, which in effect would ban you.  Hopefully that can be used here if things get really really bad.  

No because if the admin banned loads of IP's h'd also be banning innocent users from the same ISP as for different nicknames you can just make another account
No, I think you missed what I said there. For example, someone from the 192.186.xxx.xxx block is harassing the boards, and keeps making new user names, etc. What an admin could do is BAN 192.168.xxx.xxx and set an access list so the other users on the same block could enter on a name-by-name basis.

I believe there was something very similar used on UBB, and it could ban by IP block and have a restricted access table...or something close.

For Darkforce:
QUOTE

Xero- True I have no input, and I never expected anything to be done, but as a member I felt the need to raise the topic. On GBAetc and other forums we make an attempt to listen to our members rather than have the forum run in an autocratic way by power hungry admins.

If these admins were power hungry, you'd have been canned as soon as you posted this, along with about 5-6% of the entire board. They put up with a lot of crap from us users, and seeing as very few users are actually suspended/banned, I'd say they're keeping it clean only by making examples rather than just taking out anything that isn't to their liking.

 

[neocat]

Well, I know some webboards will allow the administrator to set a block of IPs as banned and allow restricted access by username, which in effect would ban you.  Hopefully that can be used here if things get really really bad.  

No because if the admin banned loads of IP's h'd also be banning innocent users from the same ISP as for different nicknames you can just make another account

No, I think you missed what I said there. For example, someone from the 192.186.xxx.xxx block is harassing the boards, and keeps making new user names, etc. What an admin could do is BAN 192.168.xxx.xxx and set an access list so the other users on the same block could enter on a name-by-name basis.

But the innocent users within that IP block would change IP too and that would mean the admin would need to update the list of allowed users every day

 

[xero]

I STILL think you're missing it, hehe. No prob tho, I'll try to explain another way.

User1, User 2, User3, and User 4 are all on the IP block of 192.168.xxx.xxx. User1 is banned from the boards and keeps trying to create new accounts to get back in. The administrator wants to stop this, so he bans ALL of the 192.168.xxx.xxx block. He then writes a script or makes some access table for those users. So, when User2 logs in, it sees he is from IP block 192.168.xxx.xxx and see if his USERNAME is on the access list. If so, he logs in fine. If not, it will say he is banned and doesn't have access.

Does that make it any clearer for you? I hope so, cause I'm all out of ways to explain!

 

[KiVan]

Darkforce you seem so angry, i don't understand why.
The rules are there, and be careful , i HAVEN'T LISTED everything it's forbidden in the board, for example i have not written you can't threaten of dead members or post links to GameCube isos, THAT does not mean that you can ACTUALLY do those things.

Now you say that the rules state that ROMS REQUESTS ARE FORBIDDEN BUT since i haven't written that ISOS requests are forbidden then users may request ISOS!!

lol

Damn i should modify the rules and write that porn movies requests are not allowed, mp3 requests are not allowed , stolen stuff requests are not allowed.. poor me .. i hope that i won't forget anything.

Do you see that your post is quite pointless? or you just feel your belly warm to find everything i haven't listed in the rules to point it out?

I've posted the GBA scene links SINCE that was the only thing that my provider LET ME TO DO about roms, do you want me to remove that too? i have no problems you know , i ve got all the stuff in need on my comp.

Finally, 24 hours suspension is FAIR, not because he asked for ISOS multiple times, but because he opened ANOTHER post begging for them, as i explained in the jail.

Maybe you want to see a forum full of requests of PC games and stuff... tons of post asking for PM with isos links in them... sorry this is not the place.

This is GBAtemp... _NOT_ WAREZtemp

Regards

 

[neocat]

Does that make it any clearer for you? I hope so, cause I'm all out of ways to explain!Â

I understand now

 

[Darkforce]

Ah now for a change of attitude I must say thank you for filling me in.

I've posted the GBA scene links SINCE that was the only thing that my provider LET ME TO DO about roms

I still think it's a bit of a dodge, but I'll let it slide. The provider confuses me but I know how hard it is to get a fricking decent server.... GBAetc is as slow as anything at the moment. Although I have to admit your rom links suck big time.

QUOTEMaybe you want to see a forum full of requests of PC games and stuff... tons of post asking for PM with isos links in them... sorry this is not the place.

God no the why download them when you can buy them from shops copy them and then take them back, lol. It wasn't about the isos or even that idiot who kept requesting for them I just wanted to bring up the question of why we weren't allowed to post rom links when you can and also the point that maybe you are being too harsh on some members.

Like come on a lot may be fricking idiots but they are human, I know this is a busy place and how you do things is your way, but at GBAetc we often try talking to people before they get told off, more often than not it turns out that people geninely didn't mean to do wrong and simply didn't realise they were in trouble, ok so like you said you can't always make the rules exactly perfect, but then there are a lot of idiots on this planet who can't understand them.

p.s Ban me if it makes you feel good and you think that I deserve it, I've never really got on well here to be honest and get on much better at GBAetc (There are some great friendships between people on there), although I'd admit I'd be sad not being able to look at the flash linker topics, it's your forum so do as you please.

 

[KiVan]

mmh... where did i write that i was planning to ban you?

I know that on GBAetc it's different, but they don't have to handle 10'000 users. The can examine each case personally, i can't.

I need to keep the community a safe place and 24 hours of suspension don't harm anyone, maybe he will log on tomorrow without noticing that he was suspended